1 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:26,220 [Music] 2 00:00:54,350 --> 00:00:50,850 this hope radio for the masses headliner 3 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:54,360 between July 1940 presently the Army Air 4 00:00:58,189 --> 00:00:55,890 Force who has announced are applying 5 00:01:01,400 --> 00:00:58,199 there has been found and is now in the 6 00:01:05,389 --> 00:01:01,410 possession of Leon a name is big change 7 00:01:08,270 --> 00:01:05,399 the game changer I occasionally think 8 00:01:12,410 --> 00:01:08,280 how quickly our differences worldwide 9 00:01:19,540 --> 00:01:12,420 would vanish if we were facing an alien 10 00:01:25,270 --> 00:01:22,330 this is fade to black with your host 11 00:01:28,990 --> 00:01:25,280 Jimmy Church on the game changer radio 12 00:01:32,370 --> 00:01:29,000 network and K GRA the global rain 13 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:34,270 we need your help to get to the 14 00:01:43,350 --> 00:01:41,130 [Music] 15 00:01:46,290 --> 00:01:43,360 you are listening to fade to black with 16 00:01:54,490 --> 00:01:46,300 Jimmy judge on the game changer Network 17 00:01:54,500 --> 00:02:00,820 good evening say goodbye 18 00:02:00,830 --> 00:02:12,790 both radio for dock 19 00:02:21,510 --> 00:02:15,670 how you do it 20 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:26,140 today is Tuesday August 21st 2018 21 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:28,090 [Music] 22 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:38,140 we're live from a bunker somewhere in 23 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:41,410 the middle of beautiful town 24 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:42,730 and I would like to welcome everybody 25 00:02:47,190 --> 00:02:45,130 listening on 26 00:02:51,479 --> 00:02:47,200 [Applause] 27 00:02:54,150 --> 00:02:51,489 it states his er and 10:30 and thrown 28 00:02:55,780 --> 00:02:54,160 back and forth up and down east and west 29 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:55,790 north and south 30 00:03:00,900 --> 00:02:57,250 [Music] 31 00:03:02,470 --> 00:03:00,910 near this is fade to black 32 00:03:04,710 --> 00:03:02,480 4k JCR 33 00:03:07,750 --> 00:03:04,720 [Music] 34 00:03:12,460 --> 00:03:07,760 game-changer network and kg ra the 35 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:12,470 planets coming up Jimmy Church what is 36 00:03:16,870 --> 00:03:16,130 crackin everybody how you do it how you 37 00:03:19,620 --> 00:03:16,880 doing 38 00:03:25,620 --> 00:03:19,630 [Music] 39 00:03:29,550 --> 00:03:25,630 all right tonight very special guest dr. 40 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:29,560 Robert Schoch is here that's right the 41 00:03:38,580 --> 00:03:33,370 good doctor we're gonna do a complete 42 00:03:41,490 --> 00:03:38,590 update on Egypt tonight lots of stuff to 43 00:03:45,470 --> 00:03:41,500 talk about he's also got a trip he's 44 00:03:49,500 --> 00:03:45,480 going back out and heading up a tour and 45 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:49,510 2019 I think it's July June July we'll 46 00:03:54,450 --> 00:03:51,730 find out about that tonight I would love 47 00:03:56,190 --> 00:03:54,460 to go to Egypt with dr. Robert Schoch do 48 00:03:58,860 --> 00:03:56,200 you imagine what that tour would be like 49 00:04:01,710 --> 00:03:58,870 any tour with the good doctor would be 50 00:04:04,770 --> 00:04:01,720 amazing but we've got the new chamber 51 00:04:08,940 --> 00:04:04,780 above the Grand Gallery we've got the 52 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:08,950 second Sphinx discovery and now we've 53 00:04:12,660 --> 00:04:10,570 got a few different versions of the 54 00:04:15,450 --> 00:04:12,670 second Sphinx right we've got luck sir 55 00:04:18,949 --> 00:04:15,460 we've got Giza we would be talking about 56 00:04:21,630 --> 00:04:18,959 all of that tonight we have the e/m 57 00:04:23,700 --> 00:04:21,640 testing that was done on the Great 58 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:23,710 Pyramid and that white paper that was 59 00:04:28,890 --> 00:04:27,010 published last month we're gonna go over 60 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:28,900 that too as well there's a new museum 61 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:31,330 that is opening up at Giza the Great the 62 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:35,770 grand the grand Egyptian Museum I think 63 00:04:41,070 --> 00:04:37,120 that's what they're calling it the grand 64 00:04:43,980 --> 00:04:41,080 there I do believe so and all that and 65 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:43,990 much more so stay tuned for that that'll 66 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:46,690 be at the bottom of the hour dr. Robert 67 00:04:52,020 --> 00:04:48,850 Schoch love it when he's on the show and 68 00:04:53,550 --> 00:04:52,030 do you remember I'm gonna ask him about 69 00:04:58,140 --> 00:04:53,560 this tonight he's probably listening 70 00:05:02,400 --> 00:04:58,150 right now that'll blow it anyway do you 71 00:05:04,860 --> 00:05:02,410 remember back the first time that we had 72 00:05:06,570 --> 00:05:04,870 him on the show there was two things now 73 00:05:09,690 --> 00:05:06,580 this is five years ago so it's going 74 00:05:13,380 --> 00:05:09,700 back aways but two things happened 75 00:05:15,830 --> 00:05:13,390 during that show one you know he had me 76 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:15,840 all nervous and I said hey you know 77 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:21,850 should I call you doctor he was like 78 00:05:27,930 --> 00:05:23,530 yeah man you're gonna call me doctor 79 00:05:31,860 --> 00:05:27,940 little man okay yeah there was that all 80 00:05:34,470 --> 00:05:31,870 right now I just call him 81 00:05:37,770 --> 00:05:34,480 does call him Robert but there was a 82 00:05:41,940 --> 00:05:37,780 second thing that has come up so often 83 00:05:45,420 --> 00:05:41,950 on this show which was I tried to find 84 00:05:49,110 --> 00:05:45,430 out what happened when he slept in the 85 00:05:52,470 --> 00:05:49,120 sarcophagus in the King's Chamber when 86 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:52,480 all night right by himself and he 87 00:05:58,740 --> 00:05:56,170 wouldn't divulge he wouldn't divulge but 88 00:06:02,420 --> 00:05:58,750 I think I'm gonna go might take another 89 00:06:05,940 --> 00:06:02,430 crack at that tonight see what happens 90 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:05,950 probably gonna laugh me off again little 91 00:06:12,570 --> 00:06:09,490 man I don't have to answer that I don't 92 00:06:15,150 --> 00:06:12,580 have to answer awesome shirt alert you 93 00:06:17,340 --> 00:06:15,160 guys like the shirt guys like the shirt 94 00:06:20,970 --> 00:06:17,350 that's cool let's go follow us on 95 00:06:24,330 --> 00:06:20,980 twitter at JT radio hashtag f2 B is the 96 00:06:27,750 --> 00:06:24,340 sandbox and you can see Sarah and tweet 97 00:06:29,430 --> 00:06:27,760 right there awesome sure thank you you 98 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:29,440 know what that's gonna get a retweet I'm 99 00:06:33,930 --> 00:06:31,120 gonna retweet that Sarah because that's 100 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:33,940 that's just an awesome tweet or did you 101 00:06:42,570 --> 00:06:38,890 not tweet that wait a minute it's a that 102 00:06:44,340 --> 00:06:42,580 is her tweet okay you guys are funny all 103 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:44,350 right enough of that I could just sit 104 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:46,450 and talk about Twitter all night long I 105 00:06:51,390 --> 00:06:48,970 should do that one night just as 106 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:51,400 straight Twitter night no guests no 107 00:06:58,860 --> 00:06:55,690 nothing just myself and you guys on 108 00:07:02,100 --> 00:06:58,870 Twitter not the chat rooms ignore it 109 00:07:06,170 --> 00:07:02,110 just just Twitter and me I would love 110 00:07:09,900 --> 00:07:06,180 that that would be a fun night hey Rita 111 00:07:14,550 --> 00:07:09,910 let's do a Twitter night does me and 112 00:07:17,910 --> 00:07:14,560 Twitter know guest I think we can book 113 00:07:22,260 --> 00:07:17,920 that guest have you been over to on 114 00:07:26,100 --> 00:07:22,270 stellar ons te ll a are.com on stellar 115 00:07:28,590 --> 00:07:26,110 calm yes Jimmy yeah Twitter night 116 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:28,600 Twitter night you guys agree with in are 117 00:07:33,630 --> 00:07:30,850 you guys down for a Twitter night that 118 00:07:36,540 --> 00:07:33,640 would be fun I think so just just 119 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:36,550 Twitter you know little ask me anything 120 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:38,890 on Twitter and an end we could just goof 121 00:07:44,670 --> 00:07:42,010 around back and forth just do a Twitter 122 00:07:45,629 --> 00:07:44,680 night that'd be really really cool all 123 00:07:49,110 --> 00:07:45,639 right you know 124 00:07:50,879 --> 00:07:49,120 I'm gonna do that what do that yeah 125 00:07:53,700 --> 00:07:50,889 we've already got next week but if we 126 00:07:55,260 --> 00:07:53,710 have an empty day next week if we have 127 00:07:58,860 --> 00:07:55,270 something we can move around Rita let's 128 00:07:59,159 --> 00:07:58,870 do a Twitter night just Twitter all 129 00:08:01,890 --> 00:07:59,169 right 130 00:08:05,790 --> 00:08:01,900 does the SRV on the guitar behind you 131 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:05,800 stand for Stevie Ray Vaughan yes it does 132 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:08,770 I'm talking about that one right there 133 00:08:20,519 --> 00:08:16,210 yes Stevie Ray Vaughan and the the you 134 00:08:24,540 --> 00:08:20,529 look the guitar strap stands for fade to 135 00:08:30,689 --> 00:08:24,550 black yeah yeah you like that 136 00:08:32,430 --> 00:08:30,699 I am I Facebook YouTube man YouTube's 137 00:08:35,009 --> 00:08:32,440 giving me hassles again just to let you 138 00:08:37,439 --> 00:08:35,019 guys know go for a Twitter night Twitter 139 00:08:40,529 --> 00:08:37,449 night you guys are down you guys are 140 00:08:43,319 --> 00:08:40,539 down for Twitter night okay all right 141 00:08:45,329 --> 00:08:43,329 keep it up keep it up I want to see 142 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:45,339 enough of your support here we'll do it 143 00:08:51,030 --> 00:08:47,890 we'll do it next week I think we can 144 00:08:52,769 --> 00:08:51,040 pull that off okay Twitter Facebook 145 00:08:55,079 --> 00:08:52,779 YouTube everything is TB Church go find 146 00:08:57,449 --> 00:08:55,089 it go follow like and subscribe but I'm 147 00:08:58,319 --> 00:08:57,459 stellar is the place to be on stellar is 148 00:09:00,630 --> 00:08:58,329 unbelievable 149 00:09:03,660 --> 00:09:00,640 I'm gonna give everybody the heads up I 150 00:09:04,980 --> 00:09:03,670 had kind of forgotten about this but you 151 00:09:06,420 --> 00:09:04,990 need to get over town and sell or get 152 00:09:09,420 --> 00:09:06,430 registered now there's a few things that 153 00:09:12,530 --> 00:09:09,430 are gonna happen but one of them that is 154 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:12,540 getting ready to launch is we've got a 155 00:09:21,090 --> 00:09:15,690 total site overhaul that's gonna happen 156 00:09:23,550 --> 00:09:21,100 yeah and I can't divulge I can't divulge 157 00:09:25,199 --> 00:09:23,560 any more than that but let me just say 158 00:09:29,009 --> 00:09:25,209 it looks amazing 159 00:09:31,710 --> 00:09:29,019 okay I let's continue on got a lot to do 160 00:09:35,370 --> 00:09:31,720 here tonight Robert Schoch is here one 161 00:09:37,199 --> 00:09:35,380 of not only my favorite guests but just 162 00:09:38,670 --> 00:09:37,209 such a leader in this community and I 163 00:09:42,389 --> 00:09:38,680 say it every time he's on the show it's 164 00:09:44,550 --> 00:09:42,399 it's rare that we all have dreams when 165 00:09:46,860 --> 00:09:44,560 were a kid we're gonna we're gonna be 166 00:09:49,980 --> 00:09:46,870 king of the world right we're gonna have 167 00:09:52,079 --> 00:09:49,990 our own castle we're gonna just just 168 00:09:54,059 --> 00:09:52,089 change things we're gonna change things 169 00:09:56,189 --> 00:09:54,069 well you know and those are those are 170 00:09:58,500 --> 00:09:56,199 the dreams right and we all have those 171 00:10:02,940 --> 00:09:58,510 growing up 172 00:10:07,290 --> 00:10:02,950 robert changed the world along with john 173 00:10:09,510 --> 00:10:07,300 anthony west changed that's a rare thing 174 00:10:12,390 --> 00:10:09,520 it's one thing to have the dreams it's 175 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:12,400 another thing to actually do it well he 176 00:10:16,230 --> 00:10:14,890 did and he's our guest tonight I cannot 177 00:10:18,990 --> 00:10:16,240 wait for it you can also email 178 00:10:22,350 --> 00:10:19,000 throughout the show Jimmy at Jimmy 179 00:10:26,100 --> 00:10:22,360 Church radio.com I had a bunch of 180 00:10:29,540 --> 00:10:26,110 breaking news today and I got a little 181 00:10:32,420 --> 00:10:29,550 swallowed up and a bunch of stuff and 182 00:10:36,930 --> 00:10:32,430 the other things that were going on 183 00:10:40,050 --> 00:10:36,940 today in the political world it was just 184 00:10:41,790 --> 00:10:40,060 it was a it was a bit too much to handle 185 00:10:44,700 --> 00:10:41,800 you kidding escaping on any of the 186 00:10:47,070 --> 00:10:44,710 mainstream media and of course you know 187 00:10:48,390 --> 00:10:47,080 I'm talking about mana four and Cohen 188 00:10:50,550 --> 00:10:48,400 what's going down with those two dudes 189 00:10:55,260 --> 00:10:50,560 and it went down at the same time two 190 00:10:57,870 --> 00:10:55,270 timing was strange but that quickly took 191 00:10:59,910 --> 00:10:57,880 over everything else and and I got a 192 00:11:03,050 --> 00:10:59,920 little sidetracked not with them but 193 00:11:05,790 --> 00:11:03,060 with other stuff here in the bunker and 194 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:05,800 I'll talk about this a little bit later 195 00:11:13,770 --> 00:11:10,330 but what I am gonna talk about here in 196 00:11:18,170 --> 00:11:13,780 just a second is our universe because 197 00:11:21,410 --> 00:11:18,180 lost today in all of the political 198 00:11:24,510 --> 00:11:21,420 conspiracy you know news that that is 199 00:11:27,030 --> 00:11:24,520 overwhelming everything was a very 200 00:11:28,980 --> 00:11:27,040 interesting story today that on any 201 00:11:29,940 --> 00:11:28,990 other day would have been the biggest 202 00:11:32,550 --> 00:11:29,950 news of the day 203 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:32,560 okay so I'll talk about that in just a 204 00:11:39,090 --> 00:11:36,010 second but for now let's get to show 205 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:39,100 cracking happy birthday to today System 206 00:11:47,310 --> 00:11:44,410 of a Down frontman Serj Tankian is 51 207 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:47,320 years old one of my favorite bands one 208 00:11:52,530 --> 00:11:49,290 of my favorite bands and not only 209 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:52,540 because the music is great but they're 210 00:11:58,170 --> 00:11:54,850 from right here in beautiful downtown 211 00:12:00,320 --> 00:11:58,180 Burbank California and I'll never forget 212 00:12:02,850 --> 00:12:00,330 back in the 90s 213 00:12:10,380 --> 00:12:02,860 yeah I'm not too sure what it was but 214 00:12:12,329 --> 00:12:10,390 I'm gonna say mid to late 90s 98 99 97 215 00:12:15,870 --> 00:12:12,339 98 99 216 00:12:17,699 --> 00:12:15,880 I wake up turn on the TV and I had heard 217 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:17,709 the day before that System of a Down was 218 00:12:24,019 --> 00:12:20,850 gonna play a free concert in Hollywood 219 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:24,029 and I thought how can how can anybody 220 00:12:29,790 --> 00:12:26,730 especially a band like system of it down 221 00:12:34,019 --> 00:12:29,800 go and just play a free concert on 222 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:34,029 Hollywood Boulevard you're just asking 223 00:12:43,139 --> 00:12:37,930 for trouble and it went down man live on 224 00:12:45,629 --> 00:12:43,149 TV a riot rioted in the middle of the 225 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:45,639 day - they were gonna play it was it was 226 00:12:49,949 --> 00:12:47,410 crazy they were gonna play it like noon 227 00:12:51,629 --> 00:12:49,959 in the middle of the day on Hollywood 228 00:12:54,980 --> 00:12:51,639 Boulevard I just thought what could go 229 00:12:57,689 --> 00:12:54,990 wrong there right and it did man 230 00:12:59,850 --> 00:12:57,699 helicopters and they tore the stage 231 00:13:01,350 --> 00:12:59,860 apart and something I mean system I've 232 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:01,360 done was like you know it we don't have 233 00:13:06,389 --> 00:13:03,610 security and that was that was the crazy 234 00:13:08,970 --> 00:13:06,399 thing you know if you're gonna go in and 235 00:13:11,850 --> 00:13:08,980 and set up for something like that you 236 00:13:14,610 --> 00:13:11,860 better be ready right and they weren't 237 00:13:18,780 --> 00:13:14,620 expecting the turnout which it which is 238 00:13:20,220 --> 00:13:18,790 what have a thousand it was crazy system 239 00:13:22,590 --> 00:13:20,230 down said you know what we're not gonna 240 00:13:25,500 --> 00:13:22,600 play well that was the second mistake 241 00:13:27,780 --> 00:13:25,510 there wasn't enough security there and I 242 00:13:32,610 --> 00:13:27,790 think everybody in that crowd made off 243 00:13:34,889 --> 00:13:32,620 with a piece of the Bands gear oh man it 244 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:34,899 was nuts it was nuts you guys should 245 00:13:42,750 --> 00:13:38,410 post that up on Twitter so now that to 246 00:13:47,220 --> 00:13:42,760 me a system of a down got their original 247 00:13:49,829 --> 00:13:47,230 gangsta stripes on that day I've just 248 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:49,839 been a fan ever since system of time if 249 00:13:53,850 --> 00:13:52,570 you guys got pictures of video you know 250 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:53,860 you're out there search in the web right 251 00:13:59,370 --> 00:13:57,370 now of that of that concert in Hollywood 252 00:14:02,309 --> 00:13:59,380 you should post it up in Twitter it was 253 00:14:04,710 --> 00:14:02,319 crazy man it was crazy I watched that 254 00:14:07,380 --> 00:14:04,720 live on TV for like two hours 255 00:14:11,009 --> 00:14:07,390 it was some of the best reality TV I'd 256 00:14:16,680 --> 00:14:11,019 seen in a long time system of down on 257 00:14:20,790 --> 00:14:16,690 this day in history 1911 the theft of 258 00:14:24,150 --> 00:14:20,800 the Mona Lisa that's right well the 259 00:14:25,510 --> 00:14:24,160 theft happened on well they suspect the 260 00:14:29,260 --> 00:14:25,520 day before 261 00:14:31,510 --> 00:14:29,270 so on this day on the 21st it might have 262 00:14:35,610 --> 00:14:31,520 been the 20th are not exactly sure but 263 00:14:39,310 --> 00:14:35,620 an amateur painter sets up his easel 264 00:14:42,220 --> 00:14:39,320 near Leonardo da Vinci's Mona Lisa in 265 00:14:44,500 --> 00:14:42,230 the Louvre in Paris so he's setting up 266 00:14:45,970 --> 00:14:44,510 you know and he knows the Mona Lisa's 267 00:14:47,530 --> 00:14:45,980 right here right you know it's like 268 00:14:49,150 --> 00:14:47,540 right here in he's setting up his easel 269 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:49,160 and then you know and get to how does 270 00:14:53,050 --> 00:14:50,930 paint stuff and he looks the paintings 271 00:14:57,130 --> 00:14:53,060 gone it's like holy crap 272 00:14:58,930 --> 00:14:57,140 the Mona Lisa is gone poof it was there 273 00:14:59,829 --> 00:14:58,940 you know it's got the dust print right 274 00:15:02,829 --> 00:14:59,839 all right 275 00:15:06,550 --> 00:15:02,839 playing spot well the day before and 276 00:15:09,910 --> 00:15:06,560 perhaps in one of the most you know 277 00:15:14,769 --> 00:15:09,920 browsing our theft attempts of all time 278 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:14,779 a Vincenzo Peruggia pulled it off he 279 00:15:18,699 --> 00:15:17,570 walked into the Louvre took the painting 280 00:15:21,340 --> 00:15:18,709 off of the wall 281 00:15:23,410 --> 00:15:21,350 stuck it in his jacket I'm not making 282 00:15:27,519 --> 00:15:23,420 this up and walked out of the Louvre 283 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:27,529 with the model he said I swear that's 284 00:15:35,500 --> 00:15:31,730 how it happened and he escaped that's 285 00:15:39,370 --> 00:15:35,510 right two years later he got caught when 286 00:15:44,110 --> 00:15:39,380 he was trying to collect ransom for the 287 00:15:45,790 --> 00:15:44,120 painting to return it to Italy that's it 288 00:15:49,590 --> 00:15:45,800 he got caught the Louvre got the 289 00:15:56,079 --> 00:15:49,600 painting back that happened on this day 290 00:15:58,420 --> 00:15:56,089 in 1911 Fader fact one this is vetted 291 00:16:00,630 --> 00:15:58,430 almost as good as yesterday's Fator fact 292 00:16:03,579 --> 00:16:00,640 i don't know this one may be better 293 00:16:08,980 --> 00:16:03,589 rita we need to research this one just a 294 00:16:13,740 --> 00:16:08,990 little bit but i vetted it today one in 295 00:16:22,230 --> 00:16:13,750 three divorce filings one in three 296 00:16:29,630 --> 00:16:22,240 include the word face book that's right 297 00:16:34,790 --> 00:16:33,170 you go thought you like that tonight we 298 00:16:37,010 --> 00:16:34,800 have very special guest dr. Robert 299 00:16:39,980 --> 00:16:37,020 Schoch is here we're gonna do a complete 300 00:16:41,810 --> 00:16:39,990 update on all the news in Egypt and no 301 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:41,820 telling where the conversation is going 302 00:16:45,110 --> 00:16:43,410 to go because it is dr. Robert Schoch 303 00:16:48,140 --> 00:16:45,120 and this is fade to black 304 00:16:52,570 --> 00:16:48,150 tomorrow night Richard bleep and Dolan 305 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:52,580 is here and once again Richards here 306 00:16:56,630 --> 00:16:55,290 hold on you know we just don't know what 307 00:16:58,610 --> 00:16:56,640 what's gonna happen there but there's a 308 00:17:01,400 --> 00:16:58,620 lot of things that are going on with the 309 00:17:03,620 --> 00:17:01,410 UFO community right now and that's when 310 00:17:05,860 --> 00:17:03,630 you bring in the one and only Richard 311 00:17:08,689 --> 00:17:05,870 bleep and Dolan to set it all straight 312 00:17:10,460 --> 00:17:08,699 that's tomorrow night Thursday night is 313 00:17:12,610 --> 00:17:10,470 another Fator night which on Rapoport 314 00:17:16,430 --> 00:17:12,620 and there's no more fake newsroom live 315 00:17:20,810 --> 00:17:16,440 followed by open lines all night long 316 00:17:23,319 --> 00:17:20,820 all right today in all this craziness of 317 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:23,329 the news all this craziness going down 318 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:27,570 Cohen this man afford that oh man all 319 00:17:35,180 --> 00:17:31,650 right buried in the news story today was 320 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:35,190 a really cool article about a second 321 00:17:41,140 --> 00:17:37,610 universe that's right 322 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:41,150 second evidence of a second universe one 323 00:17:55,010 --> 00:17:47,730 before our universe right now hold on 324 00:17:57,350 --> 00:17:55,020 kids that's a huge story and so I'm 325 00:18:00,800 --> 00:17:57,360 gonna talk about this probably for the 326 00:18:02,380 --> 00:18:00,810 next month and part of that story today 327 00:18:06,620 --> 00:18:02,390 as I was reading through it a few 328 00:18:11,660 --> 00:18:06,630 blaring things stuck out for me I'm not 329 00:18:15,940 --> 00:18:11,670 a physicist I'm getting close though not 330 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:15,950 a physicist I read oh and the 331 00:18:21,230 --> 00:18:18,090 documentaries that I go through with 332 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:21,240 with physicists and and reading you know 333 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:23,370 they're they're they're reports and 334 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:25,410 papers and man you know it seems like 335 00:18:30,770 --> 00:18:27,570 that's all I do these days right 336 00:18:34,310 --> 00:18:30,780 well there's a few things that kind of 337 00:18:37,220 --> 00:18:34,320 stuck out for me and I am going to 338 00:18:43,100 --> 00:18:37,230 through my research and what I have read 339 00:18:46,450 --> 00:18:43,110 and what has taken my thought 340 00:18:50,930 --> 00:18:46,460 pattern in a direction it's now 341 00:18:54,289 --> 00:18:50,940 conflicting with the conflicting stuff 342 00:18:56,120 --> 00:18:54,299 that is going on inside of the 343 00:18:58,310 --> 00:18:56,130 professional community when it comes to 344 00:19:01,240 --> 00:18:58,320 science and and physics and the universe 345 00:19:05,510 --> 00:19:01,250 and the history of the universe and 346 00:19:12,830 --> 00:19:05,520 again I'm not a physicist but I but I've 347 00:19:15,970 --> 00:19:12,840 got a grip I do so years ago that's good 348 00:19:19,909 --> 00:19:15,980 let's go back let's go back 2530 years 349 00:19:22,190 --> 00:19:19,919 maybe a little longer when these stories 350 00:19:25,190 --> 00:19:22,200 about the expanding universe and and the 351 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:25,200 Big Bang Theory started to really take 352 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:31,370 hold one of the theories proposed and 353 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:35,010 nearly accepted and still it's it's a 354 00:19:41,510 --> 00:19:37,290 part of the community today is that the 355 00:19:44,210 --> 00:19:41,520 universe is cyclical it expands it 356 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:44,220 contracts goes back to nothing another 357 00:19:49,070 --> 00:19:46,490 Big Bang everything starts over again 358 00:19:51,530 --> 00:19:49,080 expands till they can't expand anymore 359 00:19:52,039 --> 00:19:51,540 and we're in the middle of one of these 360 00:19:57,799 --> 00:19:52,049 cycles 361 00:20:04,070 --> 00:19:57,809 that's one now I've got a problem with 362 00:20:06,830 --> 00:20:04,080 that if you go back to the Big Bang and 363 00:20:08,690 --> 00:20:06,840 one of the thoughts that everybody has 364 00:20:10,850 --> 00:20:08,700 well you know I you know how could it 365 00:20:14,090 --> 00:20:10,860 start with absolutely nothing and 366 00:20:15,770 --> 00:20:14,100 everything is compressed into into a 367 00:20:17,299 --> 00:20:15,780 little bit you know nothing until it 368 00:20:20,330 --> 00:20:17,309 can't compress anymore then boom and it 369 00:20:23,630 --> 00:20:20,340 blows up and then and then everything 370 00:20:27,230 --> 00:20:23,640 that is right now started from that well 371 00:20:31,010 --> 00:20:27,240 that's not entirely true 372 00:20:33,159 --> 00:20:31,020 I mean in that there's no dirt in there 373 00:20:35,900 --> 00:20:33,169 there's no gold in there and there's no 374 00:20:39,230 --> 00:20:35,910 water in there and there's no part it 375 00:20:44,870 --> 00:20:39,240 that's not what's there what's there is 376 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:44,880 energy P R energy and the energy this is 377 00:20:51,020 --> 00:20:48,210 before everything is made is what caused 378 00:20:56,060 --> 00:20:51,030 the Big Bang boom and it's just energy 379 00:20:57,030 --> 00:20:56,070 that's all it is so over time and early 380 00:20:59,820 --> 00:20:57,040 on you know the 381 00:21:03,690 --> 00:20:59,830 first 500 thousand years of the universe 382 00:21:06,090 --> 00:21:03,700 after the Big Bang all of these energy 383 00:21:08,070 --> 00:21:06,100 particles are out flying around they 384 00:21:12,030 --> 00:21:08,080 eventually collide with each other and 385 00:21:15,690 --> 00:21:12,040 combine and eventually than stars and 386 00:21:19,500 --> 00:21:15,700 and eventually gases and and things are 387 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:19,510 formed but all of it is not compressed 388 00:21:24,900 --> 00:21:21,610 they're not you know there's no dirt and 389 00:21:28,020 --> 00:21:24,910 water and iron and copper and diamonds 390 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:28,030 and carbon and no no it was just energy 391 00:21:34,980 --> 00:21:31,410 that blew up the energy eventually 392 00:21:36,540 --> 00:21:34,990 combined hitting itself into other party 393 00:21:39,390 --> 00:21:36,550 then it happened over time okay and 394 00:21:42,330 --> 00:21:39,400 that's that's the Big Bang I'm not a 395 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:42,340 physicist but I think you understand 396 00:21:47,310 --> 00:21:44,530 what I'm saying so there's that and then 397 00:21:51,900 --> 00:21:47,320 the universe formed I can I can go with 398 00:22:00,240 --> 00:21:51,910 that but I can't go with is the reversal 399 00:22:04,850 --> 00:22:00,250 let me explain because one of the 400 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:04,860 reasons why the reversal can't happen 401 00:22:10,170 --> 00:22:08,170 I'm talking about you know it expands 402 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:10,180 and and then the ghosts are born them 403 00:22:17,970 --> 00:22:13,450 will cost is dark matter there are 404 00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:17,980 forces there are forces out there one of 405 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:20,080 them being dark matter and of course 406 00:22:25,500 --> 00:22:22,810 gravity it's another thing that is 407 00:22:27,090 --> 00:22:25,510 pushing the universe apart and what can 408 00:22:30,060 --> 00:22:27,100 do the reason why it hasn't collapsed 409 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:30,070 back on itself is because there are 410 00:22:32,670 --> 00:22:32,050 forces that are forcing it in the other 411 00:22:35,310 --> 00:22:32,680 direction 412 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:35,320 I'm almost of the opinion that it's 413 00:22:39,210 --> 00:22:37,090 gonna continue going that way and it's 414 00:22:40,860 --> 00:22:39,220 not going to reverse back on itself but 415 00:22:44,820 --> 00:22:40,870 one of the reasons why it can't and it 416 00:22:46,980 --> 00:22:44,830 won't is dark matter there is a lot of 417 00:22:50,790 --> 00:22:46,990 space out there and I'm talking about 418 00:22:53,070 --> 00:22:50,800 space in between objects there is a lot 419 00:22:57,330 --> 00:22:53,080 of dark matter there's as much dark 420 00:22:59,430 --> 00:22:57,340 matter out there as there is matter okay 421 00:23:02,160 --> 00:22:59,440 and it's just not going to happen it's 422 00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:02,170 not going to compress back on itself it 423 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:06,720 may stabilize right where it gets to the 424 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:08,610 equilibrium of 425 00:23:15,039 --> 00:23:11,490 dark matter and matter equalizing on 426 00:23:18,650 --> 00:23:15,049 itself and I can see that but totally 427 00:23:20,570 --> 00:23:18,660 reversing itself no because it's it's 428 00:23:22,700 --> 00:23:20,580 forcing itself out there isn't enough 429 00:23:24,980 --> 00:23:22,710 resistance out there on the outside of 430 00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:24,990 the universe to stop it and we're gonna 431 00:23:29,510 --> 00:23:27,600 continue to expand but there may be an 432 00:23:32,630 --> 00:23:29,520 equilibrium point but will it turn 433 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:32,640 around and dark matter suddenly changes 434 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:35,010 its mind all right 435 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:37,290 it doesn't want a reason and and it's 436 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:38,610 just gonna allow the universe to 437 00:23:43,370 --> 00:23:40,890 collapse back on itself no it's not 438 00:23:45,260 --> 00:23:43,380 gonna happen so there's that and I'm not 439 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:45,270 a physicist but it just makes sense to 440 00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:51,450 me okay and then there is this just like 441 00:23:56,150 --> 00:23:54,000 the thoughts you had when you were a kid 442 00:23:58,250 --> 00:23:56,160 about the Big Bang and how could it be 443 00:24:00,289 --> 00:23:58,260 possible that everything that there is 444 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:00,299 like the planet Earth could just 445 00:24:03,710 --> 00:24:02,490 compress into just look and all the 446 00:24:05,870 --> 00:24:03,720 other planets and all the other stars 447 00:24:08,030 --> 00:24:05,880 and just the universe just collapse into 448 00:24:10,850 --> 00:24:08,040 just something that it's just this big 449 00:24:12,740 --> 00:24:10,860 you know that is the size of nothing and 450 00:24:18,830 --> 00:24:12,750 then all of a sudden it blows up again 451 00:24:21,530 --> 00:24:18,840 no because now the reason why is all 452 00:24:24,530 --> 00:24:21,540 that was created the first time around 453 00:24:28,990 --> 00:24:24,540 from energy and all the matter that is 454 00:24:31,460 --> 00:24:29,000 around us is now created just because a 455 00:24:33,110 --> 00:24:31,470 physicist wants to say that it's 456 00:24:35,630 --> 00:24:33,120 reversing and it's gonna collapse back 457 00:24:39,169 --> 00:24:35,640 no now we're talking about reversing all 458 00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:39,179 of those processes that got us here 459 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:42,720 that's a whole different situation one 460 00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:45,890 direction you know almost like chaos or 461 00:24:53,690 --> 00:24:48,720 entropy right where everything is being 462 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:53,700 created but you can't uncreated it's 463 00:24:59,450 --> 00:24:56,850 like cracking an egg you crack an egg 464 00:25:03,169 --> 00:24:59,460 it's cracked you can't reverse it 465 00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:03,179 you can't unscramble an egg you can't do 466 00:25:14,299 --> 00:25:08,130 it so it's the same idea here I don't 467 00:25:18,110 --> 00:25:14,309 see this process but yet in this article 468 00:25:20,780 --> 00:25:18,120 today there are there are two three four 469 00:25:22,220 --> 00:25:20,790 sides of the scientific community that 470 00:25:23,870 --> 00:25:22,230 are actually fighting 471 00:25:27,169 --> 00:25:23,880 and arguing about this and I don't care 472 00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:27,179 what the math says you can't undo 473 00:25:32,060 --> 00:25:29,760 everything it just doesn't make sense 474 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:32,070 you cannot compare if you take out all 475 00:25:38,450 --> 00:25:35,850 the space of all of everything in 476 00:25:40,940 --> 00:25:38,460 between all of the atoms I get that oh 477 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:40,950 man well you know the the Empire State 478 00:25:45,049 --> 00:25:42,450 Building you take out all the thing you 479 00:25:48,650 --> 00:25:45,059 know it'll fit into you know you know 480 00:25:51,260 --> 00:25:48,660 okay I get that idea but if you take the 481 00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:51,270 entire universe and all of the matter of 482 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:54,480 everything that is that is not gonna 483 00:26:01,400 --> 00:25:57,690 compress down into a sugar cube it's not 484 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:01,410 it's gonna be humongo you're not gonna 485 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:03,210 be able to reverse those processes 486 00:26:07,580 --> 00:26:05,490 unless you're talking about a total 487 00:26:09,500 --> 00:26:07,590 breakdown of everything just I just 488 00:26:12,590 --> 00:26:09,510 don't see it I don't see it that way 489 00:26:14,390 --> 00:26:12,600 I don't it doesn't make any sense so 490 00:26:16,730 --> 00:26:14,400 that's me and the scientific community 491 00:26:19,490 --> 00:26:16,740 is arguing about it and it's a big deal 492 00:26:21,950 --> 00:26:19,500 and it's a big argument and today it was 493 00:26:25,430 --> 00:26:21,960 out there and it was in the news totally 494 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:25,440 overshadowed by the BS Etta's going down 495 00:26:34,299 --> 00:26:28,290 in Washington back to my point on all of 496 00:26:36,919 --> 00:26:34,309 this we have so many important important 497 00:26:40,430 --> 00:26:36,929 things that need to be discussed and we 498 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:40,440 we must figure these things out but 499 00:26:46,909 --> 00:26:43,890 apparently this bs going down in 500 00:26:48,919 --> 00:26:46,919 Washington is is more important than the 501 00:26:54,260 --> 00:26:48,929 future of humanity or where we came from 502 00:26:57,230 --> 00:26:54,270 and apparently the news thinks so and it 503 00:27:00,289 --> 00:26:57,240 really bothers me I went through today 504 00:27:01,700 --> 00:27:00,299 I'm not gonna bore anybody with any of 505 00:27:04,850 --> 00:27:01,710 it but you know I went through headlines 506 00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:04,860 today and and I'm looking through and 507 00:27:09,830 --> 00:27:07,440 the reason why I did it is because I see 508 00:27:12,770 --> 00:27:09,840 this amazing article on the universe and 509 00:27:14,419 --> 00:27:12,780 I just thought to myself what is it that 510 00:27:17,030 --> 00:27:14,429 the mainstream media is pushing down 511 00:27:19,340 --> 00:27:17,040 everybody's throats you know and I went 512 00:27:23,180 --> 00:27:19,350 and looked at the headlines and I was 513 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:23,190 blown away by the nonsense that is their 514 00:27:28,549 --> 00:27:25,770 utter nonsense and you go to one website 515 00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:28,559 and it's one set of opinions and 516 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:31,049 nonsense which is apparently the most 517 00:27:34,820 --> 00:27:33,210 important news in the history of man you 518 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:34,830 go to another website it doesn't have 519 00:27:37,930 --> 00:27:36,050 anything that does first 520 00:27:39,790 --> 00:27:37,940 upside eyes but they have their opinions 521 00:27:40,870 --> 00:27:39,800 and what is the most important news of 522 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:40,880 the day over here 523 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:42,530 and I went to a third one and I'm 524 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:44,570 reading through and I just I couldn't 525 00:27:50,110 --> 00:27:46,970 believe my eyes I just couldn't believe 526 00:27:52,900 --> 00:27:50,120 it and here we have something that needs 527 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:52,910 to be fundamentally addressed and 528 00:27:59,650 --> 00:27:56,690 figured out where do we come from where 529 00:28:01,990 --> 00:27:59,660 are we going right and it's right there 530 00:28:04,420 --> 00:28:02,000 and they're making they're making valid 531 00:28:06,430 --> 00:28:04,430 arguments on both sides totally lost in 532 00:28:09,130 --> 00:28:06,440 the news will be off of all of the 533 00:28:12,730 --> 00:28:09,140 websites tomorrow and it's like fallen 534 00:28:16,180 --> 00:28:12,740 on my shoulders which is fine but and 535 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:16,190 shoulders like mine I should say to to 536 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:18,650 keep this out there and to have it 537 00:28:23,530 --> 00:28:21,770 discussed it's it's unbelievable to me 538 00:28:26,170 --> 00:28:23,540 all right and that's why we've got 539 00:28:27,910 --> 00:28:26,180 Robert Schoch on the show tonight 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Robert M 629 00:34:00,070 --> 00:33:58,220 shock full-time faculty member at the 630 00:34:03,580 --> 00:34:00,080 college of general studies at Boston 631 00:34:05,500 --> 00:34:03,590 University since 1984 earned his PhD in 632 00:34:08,980 --> 00:34:05,510 geology and geophysics at Yale 633 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:08,990 University is M s and M Phil in geology 634 00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:12,050 and geophysics from Yale as well as 635 00:34:17,619 --> 00:34:14,240 degrees in anthropology at ba and 636 00:34:21,580 --> 00:34:17,629 geology a BS from Georgetown were George 637 00:34:24,399 --> 00:34:21,590 torched George Washington University in 638 00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:24,409 the early 90s dr. Schaack along with 639 00:34:30,430 --> 00:34:27,169 John Anthony West recast the date of the 640 00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:30,440 Great Sphinx of Egypt from 2600 BC back 641 00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:34,129 to around 10,500 BC by demonstrating 642 00:34:38,230 --> 00:34:36,169 that the monument had been heavily 643 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:38,240 eroded by water despite the fact that 644 00:34:42,940 --> 00:34:40,010 its location on the edge of the Sahara 645 00:34:45,129 --> 00:34:42,950 had endured hyper arid climatic 646 00:34:47,649 --> 00:34:45,139 conditions for the past 5000 years now 647 00:34:49,419 --> 00:34:47,659 he revealed to the world that mankind's 648 00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:49,429 history is greater and older than 649 00:34:53,530 --> 00:34:51,169 previously believed 650 00:34:54,909 --> 00:34:53,540 tonight we're going to discuss 651 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:54,919 everything we've got a lot of breaking 652 00:34:58,540 --> 00:34:57,050 news out of Egypt we have the second 653 00:35:00,340 --> 00:34:58,550 Sphinx discovery we've got the 654 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:00,350 sarcophagus at Alexandria 655 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:02,330 we got the recent ium measurements 656 00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:05,570 published and that paper we're gonna get 657 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:07,760 heavily into that with the Great Pyramid 658 00:35:11,859 --> 00:35:10,130 and of course its new chamber above the 659 00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:11,869 Grand Gallery and then we also have the 660 00:35:16,060 --> 00:35:14,510 new museum that's opening up ad keys all 661 00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:16,070 that much more tonight with our guest 662 00:35:21,609 --> 00:35:19,250 dr. Robert M shock Robert good evening 663 00:35:23,830 --> 00:35:21,619 my friend how are you it's wonderful 664 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:23,840 wonderful to be here lots going on in 665 00:35:27,730 --> 00:35:25,490 Egypt my friend 666 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:27,740 lots going on and you know what's 667 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:32,690 interesting for me is most of this most 668 00:35:38,830 --> 00:35:35,690 of it is all within the last month month 669 00:35:40,930 --> 00:35:38,840 and a half it is it we've been waiting 670 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:40,940 for this kind of stuff for a very long 671 00:35:45,690 --> 00:35:43,450 time and as I discussed with you earlier 672 00:35:48,510 --> 00:35:45,700 in the week 673 00:35:52,589 --> 00:35:48,520 I don't think not sense what you and 674 00:35:54,030 --> 00:35:52,599 jaws did back in 91 92 I don't think 675 00:35:58,050 --> 00:35:54,040 we've had this kind of news come out of 676 00:36:00,569 --> 00:35:58,060 agiza sense yeah I will agree with you 677 00:36:02,370 --> 00:36:00,579 all of a sudden I don't know just a lot 678 00:36:04,770 --> 00:36:02,380 of things have been happening and a lot 679 00:36:06,690 --> 00:36:04,780 of things have been released and you 680 00:36:09,390 --> 00:36:06,700 have to wonder if part of it is just to 681 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:09,400 drum up tourism and interest in Egypt 682 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:11,170 but I think it's more than that there's 683 00:36:15,329 --> 00:36:13,570 there's genuinely things happening in 684 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:15,339 Egypt you don't think they would have 685 00:36:22,620 --> 00:36:17,890 that kind they wouldn't conspire for 686 00:36:24,270 --> 00:36:22,630 that would you know they would never but 687 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:24,280 but you know you can call it a 688 00:36:31,620 --> 00:36:27,130 conspiracy or not it does make some 689 00:36:34,380 --> 00:36:31,630 sense for them to release things serve 690 00:36:36,660 --> 00:36:34,390 in groups to catch people's attention 691 00:36:38,190 --> 00:36:36,670 and you were just talking about that I 692 00:36:41,579 --> 00:36:38,200 think you know how you have to get 693 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:41,589 people's attention and several things at 694 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:45,130 one time can do that yeah and just like 695 00:36:50,579 --> 00:36:47,650 today okay all right before we get in 696 00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:50,589 Egypt let me ask you this and as a 697 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:54,730 geologist I don't know and and the world 698 00:36:59,700 --> 00:36:57,490 and science of geophysics how much of 699 00:37:03,210 --> 00:36:59,710 this applies to you but certainly as a 700 00:37:05,130 --> 00:37:03,220 youngster you contemplated the Big Bang 701 00:37:06,839 --> 00:37:05,140 and the creation of everything that 702 00:37:10,890 --> 00:37:06,849 we've all done it okay 703 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:10,900 is it possible okay when you go back to 704 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:13,210 the Big Bang and where its energy the 705 00:37:17,849 --> 00:37:15,970 energy over thousands of years 706 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:17,859 you know collides with itself and 707 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:19,930 eventually particles and things combine 708 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:22,930 and and then boom we have us today okay 709 00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:25,810 I understand the idea behind that but 710 00:37:32,099 --> 00:37:28,089 the reversal of the universe to collapse 711 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:32,109 back onto it so how do you undo the 712 00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:38,290 creation of rocks right undo crashes 713 00:37:43,980 --> 00:37:41,920 rock I don't know that you undo creation 714 00:37:46,530 --> 00:37:43,990 of rocks but you can probably destroy 715 00:37:50,370 --> 00:37:46,540 them and something that I think you have 716 00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:50,380 to take into account is that we do not 717 00:37:57,180 --> 00:37:54,400 know everything that's a given we do not 718 00:37:59,450 --> 00:37:57,190 perceive everything and the universe 719 00:38:02,820 --> 00:37:59,460 that we live in is 720 00:38:06,300 --> 00:38:02,830 composed of all the particles that we 721 00:38:07,620 --> 00:38:06,310 even know about in equal amounts so I'm 722 00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:07,630 just throwing this out 723 00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:09,910 right something to think about that you 724 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:12,160 can have for instance a universe that is 725 00:38:18,930 --> 00:38:15,210 essentially M is a non-technical 726 00:38:21,930 --> 00:38:18,940 non-physical term our non physicist term 727 00:38:25,470 --> 00:38:21,940 you can have things like what they call 728 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:25,480 mirror matter which if mirror matter 729 00:38:32,340 --> 00:38:29,410 basically can overlap with our matter 730 00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:32,350 but has all the same properties but 731 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:34,960 serving ramier reverse so we're not even 732 00:38:40,290 --> 00:38:37,330 aware of except for slight gravitational 733 00:38:44,030 --> 00:38:40,300 effects you can have antimatter that 734 00:38:47,310 --> 00:38:44,040 when antimatter comes into contact with 735 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:47,320 matter as we know it you know non 736 00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:52,210 antimatter it essentially you know now 737 00:38:56,850 --> 00:38:54,910 lates itself so there are different ways 738 00:39:00,480 --> 00:38:56,860 and I hate to say this way that you 739 00:39:02,820 --> 00:39:00,490 could get rid of our universe as I see 740 00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:02,830 it now I'm not predicting any of those 741 00:39:08,300 --> 00:39:05,110 I'm not saying any of that is going to 742 00:39:11,940 --> 00:39:08,310 happen but it's different perhaps than 743 00:39:13,830 --> 00:39:11,950 undoing the universe but it seems like 744 00:39:17,690 --> 00:39:13,840 there are certainly ways that you could 745 00:39:20,490 --> 00:39:17,700 have for instance another universe that 746 00:39:23,850 --> 00:39:20,500 annihilated our universe and itself in 747 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:23,860 the process I don't think that's totally 748 00:39:28,770 --> 00:39:27,010 inconceivable okay see that's why you're 749 00:39:34,380 --> 00:39:28,780 on the show you just straighten my head 750 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:34,390 out a little bit because you know how do 751 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:36,970 you undo everything that was done it's 752 00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:39,970 like the opposite of entropy right yeah 753 00:39:45,210 --> 00:39:42,730 yeah exactly so if you're gonna 754 00:39:47,580 --> 00:39:45,220 disassemble everything but as the 755 00:39:50,450 --> 00:39:47,590 universe would collapse on itself well 756 00:39:54,650 --> 00:39:50,460 then the antimatter that is existing 757 00:39:57,870 --> 00:39:54,660 would combine with the said matter and 758 00:40:01,350 --> 00:39:57,880 dialate itself and then yeah and that 759 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:01,360 turns into energy right exactly and we 760 00:40:04,740 --> 00:40:03,010 may have in there I think there's some 761 00:40:08,010 --> 00:40:04,750 evidence of this we have pockets of 762 00:40:11,970 --> 00:40:08,020 antimatter in various places that you 763 00:40:14,730 --> 00:40:11,980 know we don't we live in a subsection we 764 00:40:22,110 --> 00:40:14,740 that is not predominant that were we 765 00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:22,120 wouldn't be talking here at all we were 766 00:40:27,420 --> 00:40:24,730 talking at all that okay that's that's 767 00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:27,430 interesting I'm now gonna have to 768 00:40:34,770 --> 00:40:32,110 rethink it's just I don't I'm not so 769 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:34,780 sure this is this is my take okay so 770 00:40:40,530 --> 00:40:38,050 going back I just want your opinion on 771 00:40:43,650 --> 00:40:40,540 this so we have a you know dark matter 772 00:40:46,020 --> 00:40:43,660 and and gravity which is forcing the 773 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:46,030 universe to expand all right all right 774 00:40:50,940 --> 00:40:48,010 the resistance and it's pushing that 775 00:40:54,660 --> 00:40:50,950 yeah but the whole business of dark 776 00:40:57,690 --> 00:40:54,670 matter is problematic also and it's not 777 00:41:00,570 --> 00:40:57,700 clear that you know dark matter and dark 778 00:41:02,820 --> 00:41:00,580 energy are explanations because we don't 779 00:41:04,770 --> 00:41:02,830 have an explanation right and not to 780 00:41:07,860 --> 00:41:04,780 drive it back to Egyptology and 781 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:07,870 archaeology but dark matter and dark 782 00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:10,330 energy sort of remind me of the classic 783 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:12,250 archaeologist when they find something 784 00:41:16,140 --> 00:41:13,810 and they don't know what it is it's 785 00:41:19,020 --> 00:41:16,150 either a tomb or temple so they give a 786 00:41:21,420 --> 00:41:19,030 name to it and somehow that explains it 787 00:41:23,370 --> 00:41:21,430 when it doesn't explain it yeah so they 788 00:41:25,020 --> 00:41:23,380 have makes sense right right right and 789 00:41:26,970 --> 00:41:25,030 they have derive so to explain 790 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:26,980 everything yeah so I think there are 791 00:41:30,540 --> 00:41:28,930 real questions about dark energy and 792 00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:30,550 dark matter and I'll also throw 793 00:41:37,830 --> 00:41:34,000 something else out here which is and I'm 794 00:41:40,350 --> 00:41:37,840 not I don't want people to think I'm all 795 00:41:42,420 --> 00:41:40,360 of a sudden a big quote electric 796 00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:42,430 universe proponent but if people know 797 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:44,110 about the concept of the electric 798 00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:47,770 universe serve a different cosmological 799 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:51,910 look at things and really exploring some 800 00:41:58,530 --> 00:41:55,810 of these issues of the large-scale 801 00:42:01,890 --> 00:41:58,540 structure and development of the 802 00:42:05,100 --> 00:42:01,900 universe something that people in that 803 00:42:06,540 --> 00:42:05,110 school and when I say school that line 804 00:42:09,750 --> 00:42:06,550 of thinking and these are serious 805 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:09,760 physicist and other researchers have 806 00:42:15,650 --> 00:42:12,850 suggested that electrical forces at 807 00:42:18,570 --> 00:42:15,660 large scale have been grossly 808 00:42:21,390 --> 00:42:18,580 underestimated most cosmologists have 809 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:21,400 only been talking about gravity at the 810 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:22,570 largest scales 811 00:42:25,770 --> 00:42:24,970 they've downplayed electrical forces 812 00:42:28,620 --> 00:42:25,780 which can bow 813 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:28,630 attract and repel and that that may well 814 00:42:32,490 --> 00:42:30,610 be a major mistake 815 00:42:35,730 --> 00:42:32,500 and then I went throughout something 816 00:42:38,940 --> 00:42:35,740 else which is even further out there but 817 00:42:42,620 --> 00:42:38,950 mocks plunk the great physicist to of 818 00:42:46,110 --> 00:42:42,630 course won the Nobel Prize for the 819 00:42:50,010 --> 00:42:46,120 development the earliest development of 820 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:50,020 quantum theory he ultimately is quoted 821 00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:51,490 and he came to the conclusion that 822 00:42:56,700 --> 00:42:54,310 matter forget about matter not forget 823 00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:56,710 about matter but matter is not primary 824 00:43:00,930 --> 00:42:58,570 what's really primary is consciousness 825 00:43:04,020 --> 00:43:00,940 and everything ultimately arises from 826 00:43:05,970 --> 00:43:04,030 consciousness and I'm not saying that we 827 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:05,980 all imagined it but essentially 828 00:43:14,430 --> 00:43:09,850 consciousness as a field if you would to 829 00:43:17,490 --> 00:43:14,440 use a physical physicist term or you 830 00:43:22,130 --> 00:43:17,500 know if something beyond matter and 831 00:43:25,110 --> 00:43:22,140 energy that where everything may have 832 00:43:27,390 --> 00:43:25,120 originated if I'm making any sense what 833 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:27,400 you know that does that doesn't and I 834 00:43:35,010 --> 00:43:30,970 love that concept of from Max about that 835 00:43:39,150 --> 00:43:35,020 and and and staying on this if the 836 00:43:40,860 --> 00:43:39,160 cyclical part of our universe expanding 837 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:40,870 contracting back to the Big Bang 838 00:43:44,970 --> 00:43:43,210 restarting again and and that's the 839 00:43:47,490 --> 00:43:44,980 cycle right we're going to expand and 840 00:43:49,590 --> 00:43:47,500 yeah that's the cycle some people have 841 00:43:51,780 --> 00:43:49,600 talked about I mean you know do we know 842 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:51,790 if that's really the cycle right or is 843 00:43:57,510 --> 00:43:55,690 this somehow mitigated or are there 844 00:44:00,150 --> 00:43:57,520 other universes that intercede and 845 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:00,160 ultimately is there this thing behind it 846 00:44:07,650 --> 00:44:03,010 consciousness at someone will call it 847 00:44:09,990 --> 00:44:07,660 universal level that expresses itself if 848 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:10,000 I could put it that way through matter 849 00:44:15,540 --> 00:44:12,970 and energy as sometimes but other ways 850 00:44:18,930 --> 00:44:15,550 that other types perhaps yeah and time 851 00:44:21,180 --> 00:44:18,940 itself is a big issue here what what is 852 00:44:22,890 --> 00:44:21,190 time where does time originated and how 853 00:44:25,950 --> 00:44:22,900 does that tie in with everything else 854 00:44:28,050 --> 00:44:25,960 yeah and well that's it that's a whole 855 00:44:29,340 --> 00:44:28,060 we should do a whole show at that time I 856 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:29,350 that's incredible 857 00:44:35,220 --> 00:44:32,410 yeah I mean you'd I'm is that's one of 858 00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:35,230 the great great unknowns really when it 859 00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:36,640 comes right down to it it's funny 860 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:39,520 because we live in a society that is so 861 00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:41,650 dominated by time I know that you're 862 00:44:46,830 --> 00:44:43,510 supposed to call me a certain time and I 863 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:46,840 better be here and I I'm counting on you 864 00:44:51,420 --> 00:44:48,610 calling me then et cetera but we don't 865 00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:51,430 really know what time is no we don't and 866 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:54,160 if it originates right now we base 867 00:44:58,770 --> 00:44:57,130 everything on on the the the start of 868 00:45:02,850 --> 00:44:58,780 the universe right that was the start of 869 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:02,860 time exactly but but a half a second 870 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:10,090 before the Big Bang time existed what 871 00:45:12,750 --> 00:45:11,890 does it mean the half a second before 872 00:45:14,910 --> 00:45:12,760 the Big Bang 873 00:45:19,290 --> 00:45:14,920 more or less half a second before our 874 00:45:22,410 --> 00:45:19,300 universe as we try to trace it back in 875 00:45:23,550 --> 00:45:22,420 time yeah so we have BC but if we had 876 00:45:26,310 --> 00:45:23,560 before the Big Bang 877 00:45:29,670 --> 00:45:26,320 that would be BBC and we already have 878 00:45:30,990 --> 00:45:29,680 that in London but but nonetheless and 879 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:31,000 that was a good joke by the way that was 880 00:45:39,750 --> 00:45:35,410 pretty funny if we look at the expansion 881 00:45:43,350 --> 00:45:39,760 of the universe wouldn't it at some 882 00:45:46,770 --> 00:45:43,360 point get to the balancing point where 883 00:45:49,710 --> 00:45:46,780 it can no longer support the forces 884 00:45:50,940 --> 00:45:49,720 pushing out and then it would contract 885 00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:50,950 you know you know what I mean it would 886 00:45:57,900 --> 00:45:54,880 just find its balance of size versus 887 00:45:59,160 --> 00:45:57,910 modern concept of a steady state 888 00:46:01,410 --> 00:45:59,170 universe yes 889 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:01,420 where are at least they would approach 890 00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:04,330 some kind of steady state but again I 891 00:46:07,170 --> 00:46:06,250 was suggesting and I'm not saying I'm 892 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:07,180 right about this 893 00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:09,490 but what if it impinges upon some other 894 00:46:14,940 --> 00:46:12,160 universe or some other pocket of 895 00:46:17,790 --> 00:46:14,950 something which is antithetical to it 896 00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:17,800 with the on call the antimatter or mere 897 00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:21,040 matter or something else and it starts 898 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:23,920 in AI awaiting are being annihilated at 899 00:46:30,420 --> 00:46:28,210 that boundary at that edge now staying 900 00:46:32,250 --> 00:46:30,430 in this concept with you know our 901 00:46:35,130 --> 00:46:32,260 universe you know say you and I are 902 00:46:37,890 --> 00:46:35,140 outside of our universe looking in right 903 00:46:41,010 --> 00:46:37,900 we're just looking at this ball next to 904 00:46:43,770 --> 00:46:41,020 it now we have a multiverse a concept 905 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:43,780 which I fully believe that is is the 906 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:45,610 case so you have got all these 907 00:46:49,570 --> 00:46:48,610 multiverses out there is it possible 908 00:46:53,350 --> 00:46:49,580 that one 909 00:46:56,470 --> 00:46:53,360 universe could then drift into another 910 00:46:59,410 --> 00:46:56,480 oh yeah so I think there's no doubt in 911 00:47:02,740 --> 00:46:59,420 fact there are suggestions that that has 912 00:47:04,510 --> 00:47:02,750 happened in that we have evidence of 913 00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:04,520 that so there's something known as a 914 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:07,760 cosmic microwave cosmic was a cosmic 915 00:47:13,870 --> 00:47:10,610 background micro microwave radiation 916 00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:13,880 that is generally attributed to the 917 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:15,680 beginning of the universe as we know it 918 00:47:20,590 --> 00:47:18,530 this is evidence supposedly for the Big 919 00:47:23,770 --> 00:47:20,600 Bang in Tracy and back it's the leftover 920 00:47:27,820 --> 00:47:23,780 radiation from the Big Bang but right 921 00:47:30,130 --> 00:47:27,830 they heat exactly exactly but as I 922 00:47:31,890 --> 00:47:30,140 understand it and just looking at the 923 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:31,900 day of some I'm a geophysicist not a 924 00:47:41,260 --> 00:47:36,770 theoretical cosmologist but bubbles in 925 00:47:44,770 --> 00:47:41,270 that in homogeneities in that etc have 926 00:47:47,590 --> 00:47:44,780 been interpreted as indicating that 927 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:47,600 maybe places where our universe and 928 00:47:55,420 --> 00:47:50,450 pinches are impacts on other universes 929 00:47:58,180 --> 00:47:55,430 or has in the past so we may have we 930 00:48:02,010 --> 00:47:58,190 have evidence that can be interpreted I 931 00:48:05,860 --> 00:48:02,020 would say as evidence of other universes 932 00:48:07,990 --> 00:48:05,870 impacting us or overlapping with us that 933 00:48:10,390 --> 00:48:08,000 type of thing the second thing I want to 934 00:48:12,790 --> 00:48:10,400 suggest is think of our universe our 935 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:12,800 universe is in so many dimensions we'll 936 00:48:17,950 --> 00:48:15,170 think in three or four dimensions if you 937 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:17,960 concede I'm a dimension but there could 938 00:48:23,590 --> 00:48:21,050 be a lot more dimensions so you can have 939 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:23,600 other universes and other dimensions 940 00:48:30,700 --> 00:48:28,010 that we don't perceive I'll try to paint 941 00:48:33,010 --> 00:48:30,710 a picture here if you think of a thin 942 00:48:34,780 --> 00:48:33,020 piece of wire and you put that as a 943 00:48:37,660 --> 00:48:34,790 circle and then you have another 944 00:48:39,610 --> 00:48:37,670 universes another thin piece of wire you 945 00:48:43,390 --> 00:48:39,620 could put one inside the other without 946 00:48:45,190 --> 00:48:43,400 them ever actually overlapping and then 947 00:48:47,980 --> 00:48:45,200 at one point you may be disturbing them 948 00:48:50,590 --> 00:48:47,990 and they run into each other and 949 00:48:53,410 --> 00:48:50,600 interact am I making any sense yeah that 950 00:48:55,300 --> 00:48:53,420 vibration would yeah yeah you might 951 00:48:56,770 --> 00:48:55,310 think of them as vibrating actually 952 00:48:59,800 --> 00:48:56,780 that's a good way to think of it a 953 00:49:02,910 --> 00:48:59,810 vibrating piece of circular wire and 954 00:49:04,650 --> 00:49:02,920 they're vibrating as I say I'll get and 955 00:49:06,329 --> 00:49:04,660 each other's way they're fine but then 956 00:49:08,370 --> 00:49:06,339 they might start vibrating and they 957 00:49:10,980 --> 00:49:08,380 vibrate so much that they hit each other 958 00:49:13,799 --> 00:49:10,990 or maybe they set up a resonance between 959 00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:13,809 themselves again we're using analogies 960 00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:17,609 that we can try to wrap our heads around 961 00:49:22,109 --> 00:49:20,710 that I think can be extrapolated up to 962 00:49:24,630 --> 00:49:22,119 that level 963 00:49:28,109 --> 00:49:24,640 it'd be like when you tangle up your 964 00:49:29,910 --> 00:49:28,119 slinky when you were a kid yeah yeah or 965 00:49:36,380 --> 00:49:29,920 you tangle up your slinky with someone 966 00:49:38,460 --> 00:49:36,390 else's slinky and then both are damaged 967 00:49:40,289 --> 00:49:38,470 irretrievably because you can never get 968 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:40,299 those slinkys back just the way they 969 00:49:43,799 --> 00:49:41,170 used to be 970 00:49:46,609 --> 00:49:43,809 see that's why I think sometimes I could 971 00:49:52,260 --> 00:49:46,619 be a physicist because I can I can and 972 00:49:56,309 --> 00:49:52,270 introduce the slinky theory the universe 973 00:49:59,339 --> 00:49:56,319 is just a slinky and we get tangled up 974 00:50:03,720 --> 00:49:59,349 with other slinkys and then both slinkys 975 00:50:04,170 --> 00:50:03,730 are bent up and a mess and you can't get 976 00:50:06,299 --> 00:50:04,180 them 977 00:50:07,650 --> 00:50:06,309 remember how once they got bent up you 978 00:50:10,289 --> 00:50:07,660 couldn't get them back in no proper 979 00:50:13,799 --> 00:50:10,299 shape no no beYOU could sit there all 980 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:13,809 day all you did was make it worse it 981 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:15,970 never got better I never had an 982 00:50:21,839 --> 00:50:19,450 untangled slinky I can go on the record 983 00:50:25,289 --> 00:50:21,849 and say that I've never untangled a 984 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:25,299 slinky remember how it would flip over 985 00:50:32,789 --> 00:50:29,770 on itself too as well so you had that 986 00:50:34,829 --> 00:50:32,799 crazy twist in it and when he tried to 987 00:50:39,539 --> 00:50:34,839 get that kink out that twist it would 988 00:50:42,359 --> 00:50:39,549 just move up the slinky I think we were 989 00:50:45,900 --> 00:50:42,369 here on the radio developing a whole new 990 00:50:51,630 --> 00:50:45,910 cosmology you know what let's get let's 991 00:50:53,700 --> 00:50:51,640 get a deGrasse Tyson he would argue he 992 00:50:57,030 --> 00:50:53,710 would argue the anti slinky he would 993 00:50:58,440 --> 00:50:57,040 just he would be good anti slinky is 994 00:51:02,160 --> 00:50:58,450 justice 995 00:51:04,740 --> 00:51:02,170 so now actually this is a brilliant this 996 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:04,750 is all really serious stuff yes looking 997 00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:07,210 at the big picture and I wasn't what I 998 00:51:11,039 --> 00:51:09,250 was saying we got off on slinkys but 999 00:51:13,170 --> 00:51:11,049 actually I think these are some good 1000 00:51:15,030 --> 00:51:13,180 analogies and I think this is serious 1001 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:15,040 stuff to think about it is 1002 00:51:19,830 --> 00:51:18,490 what would I find amazing these days and 1003 00:51:22,410 --> 00:51:19,840 I know you must get a lot of 1004 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:22,420 satisfaction out of this is that we have 1005 00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:25,210 our our community our community of 1006 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:27,280 thinkers that thinks outside of the box 1007 00:51:32,250 --> 00:51:30,490 our community in our audience and and 1008 00:51:35,910 --> 00:51:32,260 we're all here and supporting each other 1009 00:51:39,060 --> 00:51:35,920 but we were always fighting against the 1010 00:51:41,550 --> 00:51:39,070 man and science and schools and 1011 00:51:43,530 --> 00:51:41,560 universities right this this push and 1012 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:43,540 pull and you could feel it but today 1013 00:51:49,910 --> 00:51:47,370 Robert science and our community are 1014 00:51:53,430 --> 00:51:49,920 starting to overlap 1015 00:51:57,530 --> 00:51:53,440 things are happening like oh this study 1016 00:52:02,010 --> 00:51:57,540 of the Great Pyramid with 1017 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:02,020 electromagnetic waves exactly this this 1018 00:52:09,630 --> 00:52:06,090 has been put out there by our community 1019 00:52:12,930 --> 00:52:09,640 for a few decades now going back to the 1020 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:12,940 70s and laying it out there laying it 1021 00:52:17,310 --> 00:52:14,650 out there laying it out there everybody 1022 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:17,320 you know tinfoil hat you know craziness 1023 00:52:23,250 --> 00:52:20,650 you guys are nuts it's just a tomb 1024 00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:23,260 that's all it is it's a pile of rocks 1025 00:52:31,410 --> 00:52:28,480 and here today science is this report 1026 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:31,420 was a game-changer what went through 1027 00:52:36,300 --> 00:52:34,450 your mind as oh well actually I'll tell 1028 00:52:38,670 --> 00:52:36,310 you what went through my mind and I want 1029 00:52:41,580 --> 00:52:38,680 to tell say what we're talking about it 1030 00:52:45,750 --> 00:52:41,590 was a report in the Journal of Applied 1031 00:52:47,910 --> 00:52:45,760 Physics and it's by actually a group and 1032 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:47,920 I I hate to say it this way but they're 1033 00:52:52,890 --> 00:52:49,570 Russian group they're from st. 1034 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:52,900 Petersburg which I've had found I have 1035 00:52:58,200 --> 00:52:54,370 found that a lot of my European 1036 00:53:00,570 --> 00:52:58,210 colleagues are much more should we say 1037 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:00,580 open to certain things look at certain 1038 00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:02,890 things right so I wasn't surprised where 1039 00:53:08,910 --> 00:53:05,680 it was coming from but what they did is 1040 00:53:12,060 --> 00:53:08,920 they did theoretical modeling of the 1041 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:12,070 Great Pyramid in terms of how could it 1042 00:53:17,570 --> 00:53:14,170 interact with electromagnetic 1043 00:53:20,430 --> 00:53:17,580 frequencies electromagnetic properties 1044 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:20,440 energies that type of thing and lo and 1045 00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:23,050 behold they found that it can in fact 1046 00:53:28,690 --> 00:53:26,250 I'll call funnel and 1047 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:28,700 if you would electromagnetic energy 1048 00:53:34,450 --> 00:53:31,890 concentrated concentrated in the 1049 00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:34,460 chambers that you have in the pyramid 1050 00:53:40,940 --> 00:53:38,160 this is very very theoretical in the 1051 00:53:42,830 --> 00:53:40,950 sense that they were taking a model of 1052 00:53:46,940 --> 00:53:42,840 it when I say a model not even a 1053 00:53:49,450 --> 00:53:46,950 physical model but yell conceptual model 1054 00:53:52,820 --> 00:53:49,460 of it but applying very sophisticated 1055 00:53:55,430 --> 00:53:52,830 cutting-edge physics to it to see what 1056 00:53:58,930 --> 00:53:55,440 would come out theoretically and what 1057 00:54:02,089 --> 00:53:58,940 came out theoretically in my opinion 1058 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:02,099 matches very much what as you said 1059 00:54:06,109 --> 00:54:03,690 people have been talking about and I 1060 00:54:08,950 --> 00:54:06,119 would say not going back to the 1970s 1061 00:54:12,740 --> 00:54:08,960 but even going back to the 19th century 1062 00:54:16,099 --> 00:54:12,750 where people were talking about these 1063 00:54:17,660 --> 00:54:16,109 types of phenomena in different types of 1064 00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:17,670 terms some people would talk about 1065 00:54:23,690 --> 00:54:20,880 pyramid power and all of that right but 1066 00:54:25,700 --> 00:54:23,700 there were examples of people going up 1067 00:54:28,730 --> 00:54:25,710 to the top of the Great Pyramid in the 1068 00:54:30,740 --> 00:54:28,740 19th century taking Leyden jars if you 1069 00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:30,750 know what that is it can actually 1070 00:54:38,030 --> 00:54:35,520 collect basically a charge from static 1071 00:54:40,609 --> 00:54:38,040 electricity that would build up on the 1072 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:40,619 pyramid very crude way to do it but they 1073 00:54:45,050 --> 00:54:42,330 were doing this and finding that they 1074 00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:45,060 could collect electromagnetic energy 1075 00:54:51,710 --> 00:54:47,609 that was being concentrated by the Great 1076 00:54:56,900 --> 00:54:51,720 Pyramid and you know basically stored in 1077 00:54:59,780 --> 00:54:56,910 this capacitor type primitive light 1078 00:55:02,060 --> 00:54:59,790 light in jar and you know release a huge 1079 00:55:05,390 --> 00:55:02,070 spark from it that type of thing so you 1080 00:55:08,030 --> 00:55:05,400 know demonstrating this conceptually so 1081 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:08,040 now that we have in the 21st century 1082 00:55:15,170 --> 00:55:13,010 really outstanding studies by top-notch 1083 00:55:18,260 --> 00:55:15,180 physicists showing that yes the same 1084 00:55:20,990 --> 00:55:18,270 thing is theoretically possible 1085 00:55:23,300 --> 00:55:21,000 now they do say in the study that this 1086 00:55:25,970 --> 00:55:23,310 needs more work but that's standard 1087 00:55:29,180 --> 00:55:25,980 science that's the way science goes one 1088 00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:29,190 thing that I found very interesting was 1089 00:55:34,790 --> 00:55:31,680 they talked about concentrating in the 1090 00:55:38,150 --> 00:55:34,800 Great Pyramid and then being funneled 1091 00:55:39,470 --> 00:55:38,160 down through it into the subterranean 1092 00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:39,480 chamber in 1093 00:55:43,370 --> 00:55:41,609 particular through the King's Chamber 1094 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:43,380 the Grand Gallery and into the 1095 00:55:49,670 --> 00:55:45,810 subterranean chamber which is deep 1096 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:49,680 underground and something that a lot of 1097 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:51,930 people have talked about with the Great 1098 00:55:58,900 --> 00:55:54,050 Pyramid and a lot of my academic 1099 00:56:04,099 --> 00:55:58,910 colleagues dismissed completely is that 1100 00:56:07,490 --> 00:56:04,109 there may be how should we say psychic 1101 00:56:09,099 --> 00:56:07,500 changes people talk about going into 1102 00:56:12,170 --> 00:56:09,109 different states of consciousness 1103 00:56:16,310 --> 00:56:12,180 altered states of consciousness having 1104 00:56:19,609 --> 00:56:16,320 psychic experiences in the Great Pyramid 1105 00:56:22,010 --> 00:56:19,619 and they don't say it in this study but 1106 00:56:25,790 --> 00:56:22,020 I could not help but think as I read it 1107 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:25,800 that this also supports and cooperates 1108 00:56:33,790 --> 00:56:29,970 those types of testimonies because you 1109 00:56:35,930 --> 00:56:33,800 because we are very much affected by 1110 00:56:38,710 --> 00:56:35,940 electromagnetic frequencies and 1111 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:38,720 electromagnetic energy and 1112 00:56:47,240 --> 00:56:43,410 electromagnetic geomagnetic changes and 1113 00:56:51,109 --> 00:56:47,250 something that you I hate to say it this 1114 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:51,119 way but people who allow themselves to 1115 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:53,850 be sensitive to such things I would 1116 00:56:59,330 --> 00:56:56,810 contend and I'll say from personal test 1117 00:57:01,790 --> 00:56:59,340 testimony you can feel it in the Great 1118 00:57:04,820 --> 00:57:01,800 Pyramids right and it's not just 1119 00:57:07,370 --> 00:57:04,830 nonsense by a lot of my academic 1120 00:57:11,060 --> 00:57:07,380 colleagues of course dismiss all of this 1121 00:57:13,099 --> 00:57:11,070 now here we have a real paper by serious 1122 00:57:15,500 --> 00:57:13,109 physicist and funny we were talking 1123 00:57:17,630 --> 00:57:15,510 about physics before with the universe 1124 00:57:20,690 --> 00:57:17,640 and the origin end of the universe or 1125 00:57:23,990 --> 00:57:20,700 whatever but the same here and you can 1126 00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:24,000 show theoretically that this is exactly 1127 00:57:29,690 --> 00:57:26,400 what should be the case in other studies 1128 00:57:32,810 --> 00:57:29,700 have shown without a doubt that we as 1129 00:57:36,849 --> 00:57:32,820 humans and all biological organisms are 1130 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:36,859 quite sensitive to electromagnetic 1131 00:57:46,550 --> 00:57:42,570 frequencies especially in the low 1132 00:57:50,300 --> 00:57:46,560 frequency long wavelength ranges and 1133 00:57:52,849 --> 00:57:50,310 which they document here as well let's 1134 00:57:54,799 --> 00:57:52,859 take let's take a break right here 1135 00:57:58,519 --> 00:57:54,809 a perfect spot to do it our guest 1136 00:58:01,609 --> 00:57:58,529 tonight is dr. Robert M shock now we all 1137 00:58:04,519 --> 00:58:01,619 know Napoleon went into the Great 1138 00:58:06,769 --> 00:58:04,529 Pyramid came out a different man and so 1139 00:58:09,979 --> 00:58:06,779 did Robert Schoch but he won't tell me 1140 00:58:12,109 --> 00:58:09,989 about it maybe he will after this break 1141 00:58:13,789 --> 00:58:12,119 our guest tonight dr. Robert I'm shocked 1142 00:58:15,910 --> 00:58:13,799 this is fade to black I'm yours to be 1143 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:15,920 Church stay with us we'll be right back 1144 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:33,750 this is fade to black 1145 00:58:39,570 --> 00:58:35,890 with Jimmy Church on the game changer 1146 00:58:41,359 --> 00:58:39,580 radio network and kgr a the global radio 1147 00:58:44,670 --> 00:58:41,369 alliance 1148 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:44,680 this is KCRA digital broadcasting 1149 00:58:50,310 --> 00:58:48,010 station Salt Lake City Utah Van Buren 1150 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:50,320 Arkansas does your basement or 1151 00:58:54,180 --> 00:58:52,450 crawlspace have a damp musty smell well 1152 00:58:56,340 --> 00:58:54,190 watch out that's a sign of too much 1153 00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:56,350 moisture and not enough ventilation and 1154 00:59:00,300 --> 00:58:58,210 that can mean increased mold growth and 1155 00:59:02,580 --> 00:59:00,310 the build-up of harmful toxins and gases 1156 00:59:04,740 --> 00:59:02,590 don't bother with a dehumidifier it just 1157 00:59:06,510 --> 00:59:04,750 circulates the same unhealthy air now 1158 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:06,520 there's a better way to remove these 1159 00:59:10,770 --> 00:59:08,410 dangers and odors it's with the 1160 00:59:12,599 --> 00:59:10,780 computerized wave moisture control unit 1161 00:59:14,220 --> 00:59:12,609 that reduces moisture and expels 1162 00:59:16,230 --> 00:59:14,230 pollutants we replaced our old 1163 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:16,240 dehumidifier with the wave unit and in 1164 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:18,490 only three weeks our basement is dry and 1165 00:59:22,859 --> 00:59:20,890 the musty smell is gone wave units 1166 00:59:25,290 --> 00:59:22,869 require no maintenance no buckets of 1167 00:59:27,210 --> 00:59:25,300 water or filters and costs only pennies 1168 00:59:28,980 --> 00:59:27,220 a day to run breathe better live 1169 00:59:31,410 --> 00:59:28,990 healthier with an affordable no 1170 00:59:33,750 --> 00:59:31,420 maintenance wave unit call eight eight 1171 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:33,760 eight seven one seven way eight eight 1172 00:59:42,030 --> 00:59:37,090 eight seven one seven wabe or visit dry 1173 00:59:43,540 --> 00:59:42,040 healthy home comm dry healthy home calm 1174 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:43,550 [Music] 1175 00:59:55,930 --> 00:59:45,690 all solutions 1176 01:00:00,410 --> 00:59:58,550 hi this is race Hobbs here repping the 1177 01:00:03,410 --> 01:00:00,420 planet and you're listening to my good 1178 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:03,420 friend Jimmy Church fade to black 1179 01:00:10,550 --> 01:00:05,970 on the game changer network and the kgr 1180 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:10,560 a digital broadcast station this is Toby 1181 01:00:33,260 --> 01:00:12,690 Kebbell you're listening to Jimmy Church 1182 01:00:34,790 --> 01:00:33,270 radio calm revolution this is my tanks 1183 01:00:36,500 --> 01:00:34,800 of the graylien report and you're 1184 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:36,510 listening to jimmy church on fade to 1185 01:00:40,190 --> 01:00:38,130 black across the globe on the 1186 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:40,200 game-changer radio network and the one 1187 01:00:47,180 --> 01:00:43,210 and only kgr a radio the planet 1188 01:00:47,460 --> 01:00:47,190 [Music] 1189 01:01:03,519 --> 01:00:47,470 [Applause] 1190 01:01:06,140 --> 01:01:03,529 [Music] 1191 01:01:08,179 --> 01:01:06,150 all right welcome back fade to black 1192 01:01:12,380 --> 01:01:08,189 I'm here to be Church our guest tonight 1193 01:01:13,819 --> 01:01:12,390 dr. Robert and shot this segment of fade 1194 01:01:16,459 --> 01:01:13,829 to black has proudly brought to you by 1195 01:01:20,359 --> 01:01:16,469 River moon coffee makers of the fade to 1196 01:01:21,709 --> 01:01:20,369 black blend promo code f2b blend just go 1197 01:01:25,039 --> 01:01:21,719 to the banners right there Jimmy Church 1198 01:01:27,319 --> 01:01:25,049 radio.com now dr. Schaack you and I have 1199 01:01:29,959 --> 01:01:27,329 talked about this over the years but for 1200 01:01:32,479 --> 01:01:29,969 me and I don't have all those letters 1201 01:01:36,890 --> 01:01:32,489 that follow my name that make me some 1202 01:01:41,239 --> 01:01:36,900 academic but the idea and the concept of 1203 01:01:43,429 --> 01:01:41,249 force and and and the rocks at the Great 1204 01:01:47,150 --> 01:01:43,439 Pyramid being stacked up on top of each 1205 01:01:50,329 --> 01:01:47,160 other and then you combine granite and 1206 01:01:53,630 --> 01:01:50,339 which is you know five levels above the 1207 01:01:56,019 --> 01:01:53,640 King's Chamber surrounded the walls 1208 01:01:59,299 --> 01:01:56,029 surrounding the King's Chamber the 1209 01:02:03,789 --> 01:01:59,309 forces of granite on top of each other 1210 01:02:05,719 --> 01:02:03,799 has to conceptually in my mind create 1211 01:02:10,219 --> 01:02:05,729 energy this 1212 01:02:12,679 --> 01:02:10,229 eeehm study certainly suggests that and 1213 01:02:14,719 --> 01:02:12,689 I think that that is great but when 1214 01:02:17,089 --> 01:02:14,729 you're inside of the King's Chamber the 1215 01:02:20,539 --> 01:02:17,099 sheer weight and the energy that is 1216 01:02:24,259 --> 01:02:20,549 created from those forces above you has 1217 01:02:27,890 --> 01:02:24,269 to create something it just does and it 1218 01:02:29,749 --> 01:02:27,900 has to affect or have an effect you 1219 01:02:31,219 --> 01:02:29,759 spent the night you spent the night in 1220 01:02:34,339 --> 01:02:31,229 the King's Chamber you slept in the 1221 01:02:36,199 --> 01:02:34,349 sarcophagus we've talked about that you 1222 01:02:38,929 --> 01:02:36,209 won't reveal it maybe you will turn on 1223 01:02:44,199 --> 01:02:38,939 the show but that's fine but your Iman 1224 01:02:48,409 --> 01:02:44,209 but but as you're reading this report 1225 01:02:51,409 --> 01:02:48,419 you have your own experiences there and 1226 01:02:52,999 --> 01:02:51,419 it had to resonate with you this report 1227 01:02:56,539 --> 01:02:53,009 where you know that there's something 1228 01:02:58,699 --> 01:02:56,549 going on yeah absolutely absolutely and 1229 01:03:03,109 --> 01:02:58,709 this is a nice confirmation I think of 1230 01:03:06,199 --> 01:03:03,119 what I and many people have realized 1231 01:03:08,029 --> 01:03:06,209 from being there and you mentioned I 1232 01:03:11,179 --> 01:03:08,039 think just as we were going into the 1233 01:03:13,669 --> 01:03:11,189 break about Napoleon Napoleon I am in 1234 01:03:16,220 --> 01:03:13,679 good company Napoleon never spoke about 1235 01:03:18,410 --> 01:03:16,230 it I tend to be 1236 01:03:20,990 --> 01:03:18,420 more private person in some cases so no 1237 01:03:24,290 --> 01:03:21,000 I'm not going to talk about this but it 1238 01:03:28,010 --> 01:03:24,300 can I put a plug in sure people should 1239 01:03:30,410 --> 01:03:28,020 come with me to Egypt in June 2019 and 1240 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:30,420 they can at least get it they're not 1241 01:03:34,670 --> 01:03:31,770 going to spend the night in the Great 1242 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:34,680 Pyramid I can't um we're not going to do 1243 01:03:39,140 --> 01:03:36,810 that but we will be in the Great Pyramid 1244 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:39,150 we will go to the King's Chamber we will 1245 01:03:46,310 --> 01:03:43,290 explore it we will get everyone will get 1246 01:03:48,140 --> 01:03:46,320 the opportunity to get a sense and feel 1247 01:03:51,410 --> 01:03:48,150 for it themselves so that's really the 1248 01:03:54,349 --> 01:03:51,420 best way to do it if people have the 1249 01:03:57,830 --> 01:03:54,359 means and the desire come join me in 1250 01:03:59,990 --> 01:03:57,840 June 2019 I'm doing a public trip I do 1251 01:04:01,609 --> 01:04:00,000 public trips as you know sometimes there 1252 01:04:05,180 --> 01:04:01,619 I also of course go there for my own 1253 01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:05,190 research know all the information all 1254 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:07,730 the information is at Robert Schoch com 1255 01:04:15,620 --> 01:04:10,650 correct go to Robert Schoch comm and 1256 01:04:18,050 --> 01:04:15,630 then click on the Egypt trip banner and 1257 01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:18,060 this Egypt trip I want to be very clear 1258 01:04:24,770 --> 01:04:21,210 because I'm very excited about this this 1259 01:04:28,099 --> 01:04:24,780 is not me personally doing it yes I'm 1260 01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:28,109 leading or co-lead aunt with another 1261 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:30,890 colleague of mine it is for Oracle 1262 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:33,570 organization for the research of ancient 1263 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:35,850 cultures which is a nonprofit 1264 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:40,890 organization that I helped co-found with 1265 01:04:47,870 --> 01:04:44,130 other colleagues and we are devoted to 1266 01:04:49,670 --> 01:04:47,880 education and research into these 1267 01:04:53,859 --> 01:04:49,680 ancient I'll use the term ancient 1268 01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:53,869 mysteries in a genuine serious 1269 01:05:00,950 --> 01:04:57,330 evidence-based scientific way but also 1270 01:05:04,730 --> 01:05:00,960 in an open box way if you would not the 1271 01:05:08,450 --> 01:05:04,740 conventional status quo academic way in 1272 01:05:10,370 --> 01:05:08,460 the bad sense but in the good sense of 1273 01:05:12,910 --> 01:05:10,380 following the evidence wherever it goes 1274 01:05:15,710 --> 01:05:12,920 and that evidence includes what 1275 01:05:18,230 --> 01:05:15,720 consistently people talk about and feel 1276 01:05:20,780 --> 01:05:18,240 that is evidence it may not be what some 1277 01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:20,790 academics one but that is genuine 1278 01:05:25,550 --> 01:05:22,530 evidence as far as I'm concerned when 1279 01:05:29,180 --> 01:05:25,560 you have a consistent reaction of people 1280 01:05:30,050 --> 01:05:29,190 for instance to the King's Chamber or to 1281 01:05:31,970 --> 01:05:30,060 the sub-tree 1282 01:05:35,900 --> 01:05:31,980 chamber and then game back to what we 1283 01:05:39,500 --> 01:05:35,910 were talking about now physical analysis 1284 01:05:41,270 --> 01:05:39,510 and physicist analyzing the structure of 1285 01:05:43,730 --> 01:05:41,280 the Great Pyramid saying yes there is 1286 01:05:46,370 --> 01:05:43,740 something to it in terms of the electro 1287 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:46,380 magnetics and other studies that say yes 1288 01:05:52,070 --> 01:05:50,250 we are affected by such electromagnetic 1289 01:05:54,340 --> 01:05:52,080 phenomena and that does affect our 1290 01:05:57,350 --> 01:05:54,350 consciousness and it does affect our 1291 01:05:59,330 --> 01:05:57,360 states of being our you know I hate to 1292 01:06:01,730 --> 01:05:59,340 use the term because it's overused but 1293 01:06:05,210 --> 01:06:01,740 altered states of being that's right and 1294 01:06:08,270 --> 01:06:05,220 when we combine this I mean there's such 1295 01:06:11,980 --> 01:06:08,280 a huge pile of unanswered questions when 1296 01:06:14,740 --> 01:06:11,990 it comes to diese the construction 1297 01:06:18,460 --> 01:06:14,750 getting all of the red granite 1298 01:06:21,740 --> 01:06:18,470 transported five hundred miles you know 1299 01:06:24,470 --> 01:06:21,750 for masculine how they how they possibly 1300 01:06:27,710 --> 01:06:24,480 quarried it before the invention of 1301 01:06:30,050 --> 01:06:27,720 steel there how it got built how it got 1302 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:30,060 done in 20 years all of those that 1303 01:06:33,890 --> 01:06:32,010 there's that part of it which seems 1304 01:06:36,770 --> 01:06:33,900 nearly impossible but then when you 1305 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:36,780 throw in if you are my tour guide and 1306 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:38,730 I'm out there with you and I'm looking 1307 01:06:44,300 --> 01:06:40,650 you come with me and I will be your tour 1308 01:06:46,940 --> 01:06:44,310 guys come in June 2019 whoever wants to 1309 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:46,950 come I'm their tour guide just to let 1310 01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:48,450 you know Rita and I are talking about it 1311 01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:52,650 but anyway okay so but I would have to 1312 01:06:59,420 --> 01:06:55,770 throw this now on top of the pile of 1313 01:07:03,650 --> 01:06:59,430 unanswered questions which is how is it 1314 01:07:07,190 --> 01:07:03,660 possible that Stone Age man if this was 1315 01:07:09,140 --> 01:07:07,200 done at 3,000 BC how is it possible that 1316 01:07:11,930 --> 01:07:09,150 Stone Age man could understand the 1317 01:07:14,270 --> 01:07:11,940 concepts of electromagnetic 1318 01:07:16,490 --> 01:07:14,280 concentration in certain chambers and 1319 01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:16,500 points inside of the pyramid aside from 1320 01:07:21,620 --> 01:07:18,090 everything else that we're dealing with 1321 01:07:24,290 --> 01:07:21,630 with the construction of stuff on Giza 1322 01:07:26,870 --> 01:07:24,300 how is it possible that they could have 1323 01:07:31,130 --> 01:07:26,880 this kind of knowledge that we are today 1324 01:07:34,070 --> 01:07:31,140 trying to understand but yet five 1325 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:34,080 thousand years ago an ancient culture 1326 01:07:40,730 --> 01:07:38,010 like this had a full grip on this type 1327 01:07:42,980 --> 01:07:40,740 of physics well you're making a couple 1328 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:42,990 of assumptions right and one of the 1329 01:07:46,220 --> 01:07:43,770 assumptions 1330 01:07:48,890 --> 01:07:46,230 that they were doing this 5000 years ago 1331 01:07:50,750 --> 01:07:48,900 versus maybe it was goes back to a much 1332 01:07:52,790 --> 01:07:50,760 earlier period that's not something you 1333 01:07:55,790 --> 01:07:52,800 and I have certainly talked about before 1334 01:07:58,370 --> 01:07:55,800 is and I didn't start out this way but 1335 01:08:00,490 --> 01:07:58,380 I'm absolutely now fully convinced that 1336 01:08:04,270 --> 01:08:00,500 there was an earlier I called psycho 1337 01:08:08,210 --> 01:08:04,280 civilization that the Sphinx is a 1338 01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:08,220 remnant of that goes back to the before 1339 01:08:12,770 --> 01:08:10,050 the end of the last ice age and I think 1340 01:08:14,900 --> 01:08:12,780 incredible sophistication and when we're 1341 01:08:16,130 --> 01:08:14,910 talking about the dynastic Egyptians and 1342 01:08:20,269 --> 01:08:16,140 this is something I will show evidence 1343 01:08:23,809 --> 01:08:20,279 of on-site as we go through Egypt that 1344 01:08:27,500 --> 01:08:23,819 very much dynastic Egypt of four to five 1345 01:08:32,710 --> 01:08:27,510 thousand years ago included was a legacy 1346 01:08:35,539 --> 01:08:32,720 of a much earlier armed civilization and 1347 01:08:37,460 --> 01:08:35,549 remembrance if you would of some things 1348 01:08:40,269 --> 01:08:37,470 they knew so I think we have to push 1349 01:08:43,700 --> 01:08:40,279 some of this knowledge back much further 1350 01:08:46,940 --> 01:08:43,710 including I'm convinced that at least 1351 01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:46,950 portions of the Great Pyramid go back to 1352 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:49,290 that much earlier period and there's 1353 01:08:55,220 --> 01:08:51,810 lots of evidence for that on the ground 1354 01:08:58,490 --> 01:08:55,230 there's lots of evidence for that in the 1355 01:09:00,470 --> 01:08:58,500 ancient texts that the ancient Egyptians 1356 01:09:04,190 --> 01:09:00,480 talked about themselves they talked 1357 01:09:07,460 --> 01:09:04,200 about much earlier history the classical 1358 01:09:09,410 --> 01:09:07,470 Egyptologists of the 19th 20 20th and 1359 01:09:11,870 --> 01:09:09,420 21st centuries of course dismiss that 1360 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:11,880 and say the ancient Egyptians didn't 1361 01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:14,130 knows much about their early history as 1362 01:09:21,940 --> 01:09:17,010 they the Egyptologists do today but they 1363 01:09:26,090 --> 01:09:21,950 talked about having this long period 1364 01:09:29,750 --> 01:09:26,100 before 3,000 proximately 3000 BC long 1365 01:09:32,300 --> 01:09:29,760 before dynastic times this ties in with 1366 01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:32,310 my work on the Great Sphinx as we have 1367 01:09:37,250 --> 01:09:35,010 discussed numerous times it ties in with 1368 01:09:42,559 --> 01:09:37,260 Robert Bauval my colleague Robert Bauval 1369 01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:42,569 and his Orion correlation of the Great 1370 01:09:47,059 --> 01:09:44,730 Pyramid the second pyramid and the third 1371 01:09:50,570 --> 01:09:47,069 pyramid with the belt of Orion but not 1372 01:09:53,930 --> 01:09:50,580 in 25 or 2600 BC but about 10 to 11 1373 01:09:56,330 --> 01:09:53,940 thousand BC so there's a lot of evidence 1374 01:09:57,459 --> 01:09:56,340 that there's a lot of different things 1375 01:09:59,830 --> 01:09:57,469 going on 1376 01:10:04,450 --> 01:09:59,840 than what conventional Egyptologists say 1377 01:10:07,589 --> 01:10:04,460 he's a plateau is it possible that that 1378 01:10:11,469 --> 01:10:07,599 Boston University will allow you to 1379 01:10:14,259 --> 01:10:11,479 teach teach these concepts and actually 1380 01:10:15,939 --> 01:10:14,269 have a course we are getting there we 1381 01:10:19,450 --> 01:10:15,949 are getting there it's very funny you 1382 01:10:20,770 --> 01:10:19,460 asked that I just I mean funny in the 1383 01:10:25,450 --> 01:10:20,780 sense of coincidental 1384 01:10:29,469 --> 01:10:25,460 sure for the first time I taught two I 1385 01:10:32,169 --> 01:10:29,479 taught a course over the summer and the 1386 01:10:34,509 --> 01:10:32,179 title of it was and I was asked to teach 1387 01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:34,519 this I didn't solicit well can I teach 1388 01:10:41,049 --> 01:10:37,130 this I was asked by one of the 1389 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:41,059 administrators that I've known for a 1390 01:10:46,419 --> 01:10:43,090 long time at Boston University and 1391 01:10:49,330 --> 01:10:46,429 faculty member administrator to teach a 1392 01:10:49,750 --> 01:10:49,340 course called mysteries of archaeology 1393 01:10:52,660 --> 01:10:49,760 Oh 1394 01:10:55,270 --> 01:10:52,670 lo and behold of course what do you 1395 01:10:57,759 --> 01:10:55,280 think I included I included a lot of the 1396 01:11:00,819 --> 01:10:57,769 types of things we're talking about and 1397 01:11:02,290 --> 01:11:00,829 I included you know genuine discussion 1398 01:11:04,959 --> 01:11:02,300 of the evidence and where the 1399 01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:04,969 conventional views come up short and 1400 01:11:09,910 --> 01:11:07,010 what we don't know and what the 1401 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:09,920 possibilities might be how to go over 1402 01:11:16,779 --> 01:11:14,570 very very well very well I mean students 1403 01:11:19,569 --> 01:11:16,789 I mean I think people are really looking 1404 01:11:20,859 --> 01:11:19,579 for this information you were and I try 1405 01:11:23,589 --> 01:11:20,869 to encourage the students to be 1406 01:11:26,169 --> 01:11:23,599 open-minded to look at the genuine 1407 01:11:29,020 --> 01:11:26,179 evidence I'm not trying to you know 1408 01:11:31,270 --> 01:11:29,030 substitute one dogma with another Dogma 1409 01:11:34,649 --> 01:11:31,280 or doctrine I'm saying look at the real 1410 01:11:38,169 --> 01:11:34,659 evidence let's put it into context and 1411 01:11:41,469 --> 01:11:38,179 see where it goes and when you do that 1412 01:11:44,529 --> 01:11:41,479 yes dynastic Egypt is dynastic Egypt and 1413 01:11:47,759 --> 01:11:44,539 I don't deny dynastic Egypt but there's 1414 01:11:50,979 --> 01:11:47,769 a lot more to it than just the 1415 01:11:53,140 --> 01:11:50,989 conventional view again you know 1416 01:11:55,899 --> 01:11:53,150 sometimes people misinterpret me and I'm 1417 01:11:59,520 --> 01:11:55,909 not the nine that there was Moses before 1418 01:12:04,180 --> 01:11:59,530 or you know the different ramasees or 1419 01:12:06,969 --> 01:12:04,190 the pharaoh Khufu but what I'm saying is 1420 01:12:10,270 --> 01:12:06,979 that in some cases they were adopting 1421 01:12:11,049 --> 01:12:10,280 and reusing and refurbishing rebuilding 1422 01:12:14,109 --> 01:12:11,059 and 1423 01:12:16,660 --> 01:12:14,119 the civilization as a whole was building 1424 01:12:20,919 --> 01:12:16,670 on an earlier legacy and we have the 1425 01:12:24,310 --> 01:12:20,929 same thing in Europe you know modern 1426 01:12:26,950 --> 01:12:24,320 Europe in the last 500 years didn't pop 1427 01:12:30,100 --> 01:12:26,960 out of nowhere you must have been in the 1428 01:12:32,919 --> 01:12:30,110 zone that must have been the funnest 1429 01:12:34,839 --> 01:12:32,929 course for you to finally oh yeah yeah I 1430 01:12:39,250 --> 01:12:34,849 was fine it was interesting it was fun 1431 01:12:43,089 --> 01:12:39,260 well now what about so we're making the 1432 01:12:45,430 --> 01:12:43,099 inroads within academia so and okay so 1433 01:12:49,180 --> 01:12:45,440 that was a summer course do you see the 1434 01:12:51,370 --> 01:12:49,190 possibility of this expanding you know 1435 01:12:53,799 --> 01:12:51,380 that's what I that's what I want to do I 1436 01:12:56,140 --> 01:12:53,809 would like to expand it I would like to 1437 01:12:58,810 --> 01:12:56,150 develop this further something else 1438 01:13:01,930 --> 01:12:58,820 which is in its very incipient stages 1439 01:13:05,319 --> 01:13:01,940 but again I want to build it up as I was 1440 01:13:07,180 --> 01:13:05,329 allowed and it's really very small now 1441 01:13:09,279 --> 01:13:07,190 it's essentially I mean I you know all 1442 01:13:12,939 --> 01:13:09,289 these things cost money etc and I don't 1443 01:13:17,020 --> 01:13:12,949 want to sound the wrong way but I have 1444 01:13:20,169 --> 01:13:17,030 now been allowed to organize and put 1445 01:13:22,569 --> 01:13:20,179 together what is called which is no let 1446 01:13:25,140 --> 01:13:22,579 me just say the name the Institute for 1447 01:13:27,729 --> 01:13:25,150 the Study of the origins of civilization 1448 01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:27,739 ISOC Institute for the Study of the 1449 01:13:33,279 --> 01:13:31,250 origins of civilization at Boston 1450 01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:33,289 University within my College the College 1451 01:13:37,990 --> 01:13:36,050 of general studies and it's very small 1452 01:13:40,629 --> 01:13:38,000 I'm the director of it but essentially 1453 01:13:45,399 --> 01:13:40,639 I'm directing myself if you would wholly 1454 01:13:47,770 --> 01:13:45,409 this is great news man yeah so it's I'm 1455 01:13:50,529 --> 01:13:47,780 starting to make inroads so between that 1456 01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:50,539 and I already mentioned Oracle which is 1457 01:13:59,260 --> 01:13:54,770 a independent nonprofit organization so 1458 01:14:01,540 --> 01:13:59,270 that money can be you know how should I 1459 01:14:05,290 --> 01:14:01,550 say what's the word I what donations can 1460 01:14:09,339 --> 01:14:05,300 be made money can be raised as I said 1461 01:14:11,649 --> 01:14:09,349 we're doing this trip in June 2019 which 1462 01:14:14,890 --> 01:14:11,659 gives people opportunity to go to Egypt 1463 01:14:17,319 --> 01:14:14,900 with me it also helps Oracle not in 1464 01:14:19,569 --> 01:14:17,329 terms of fundraising so much but just to 1465 01:14:21,939 --> 01:14:19,579 get it off the ground and get it out 1466 01:14:22,480 --> 01:14:21,949 there and status that type of thing 1467 01:14:25,060 --> 01:14:22,490 well it 1468 01:14:28,990 --> 01:14:25,070 I feel like we're trying to make real 1469 01:14:31,690 --> 01:14:29,000 inroads in a serious sense um not you 1470 01:14:34,570 --> 01:14:31,700 know cuz you I'm an academic I teach at 1471 01:14:36,790 --> 01:14:34,580 a university Boston University and so I 1472 01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:36,800 can criticize my fellow academics but 1473 01:14:42,070 --> 01:14:39,170 also well work with them and I want this 1474 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:42,080 to become both part of the mainstream 1475 01:14:46,690 --> 01:14:44,330 but not be sucked into the mainstream 1476 01:14:49,090 --> 01:14:46,700 and all of a sudden you know I go the 1477 01:14:51,700 --> 01:14:49,100 other way we need to keep through the 1478 01:14:55,540 --> 01:14:51,710 evidence and keep to what we're doing 1479 01:14:57,670 --> 01:14:55,550 but make that more accessible well then 1480 01:14:59,920 --> 01:14:57,680 but you have to prepare let's say the 1481 01:15:11,680 --> 01:14:59,930 course starts now you can get a degree 1482 01:15:15,370 --> 01:15:11,690 in Egyptology part two right we have to 1483 01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:15,380 think of a title but there is the the 1484 01:15:21,190 --> 01:15:17,330 one question that you're gonna have to 1485 01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:21,200 prepare for the first day some student 1486 01:15:26,620 --> 01:15:23,690 is gonna raise their hand and go okay 1487 01:15:29,110 --> 01:15:26,630 professor all good all good but who 1488 01:15:32,500 --> 01:15:29,120 really built the pyramids and that's 1489 01:15:34,110 --> 01:15:32,510 that's so I'm that student I raise my 1490 01:15:37,900 --> 01:15:34,120 hand 1491 01:15:41,770 --> 01:15:37,910 you know I say that's your research 1492 01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:41,780 project for the semester that's your 1493 01:15:46,900 --> 01:15:45,170 answer okay no no but I think what we 1494 01:15:49,690 --> 01:15:46,910 have to do and I think this is a very 1495 01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:49,700 important point you asked me who really 1496 01:15:55,710 --> 01:15:52,970 built the Great Pyramid I would say okay 1497 01:15:58,420 --> 01:15:55,720 it's just to put in context I believe 1498 01:16:00,310 --> 01:15:58,430 based on the evidence whenever I say I 1499 01:16:01,540 --> 01:16:00,320 believe I'm not channeling it or 1500 01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:01,550 anything like that I'm not putting 1501 01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:04,130 channelers down but that's not me right 1502 01:16:12,490 --> 01:16:09,410 I think there's evidence for Khufu being 1503 01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:12,500 involved with the Great Pyramid Khufu or 1504 01:16:19,630 --> 01:16:15,890 no snow Nall so as Cheops the famous 1505 01:16:21,220 --> 01:16:19,640 fourth dynasty pharaoh but that doesn't 1506 01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:21,230 mean he built it from scratch that 1507 01:16:26,590 --> 01:16:24,290 doesn't mean he built it de novo I think 1508 01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:26,600 he was involved with it used it at some 1509 01:16:31,900 --> 01:16:29,810 point you know that doesn't mean he's 1510 01:16:34,540 --> 01:16:31,910 totally responsible for it I think there 1511 01:16:36,220 --> 01:16:34,550 are earlier stages to it that go back to 1512 01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:36,230 a much earlier period I think 1513 01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:38,090 you know many of these things were being 1514 01:16:43,690 --> 01:16:41,090 reused Andrea propriate it and they go 1515 01:16:44,830 --> 01:16:43,700 back to this much earlier period now who 1516 01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:44,840 are those people 1517 01:16:49,780 --> 01:16:48,050 I don't know precisely at this point and 1518 01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:49,790 I think that's something we have to be 1519 01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:53,330 able to do is be honest in some cases 1520 01:17:00,250 --> 01:16:55,970 that we don't know the answers to 1521 01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:00,260 certain oh man search and discovery what 1522 01:17:04,330 --> 01:17:02,210 you know what I think Khufu had to do 1523 01:17:06,070 --> 01:17:04,340 with the Great Pyramid you can write 1524 01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:06,080 this down too you can add this to the 1525 01:17:14,410 --> 01:17:08,330 curriculum he owned the janitorial 1526 01:17:17,229 --> 01:17:14,420 company the ground crew whose the 1527 01:17:19,660 --> 01:17:17,239 grounds crew the grounds crew he can't 1528 01:17:22,030 --> 01:17:19,670 but you know he might actually agree 1529 01:17:24,729 --> 01:17:22,040 with you and let me let me put it this 1530 01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:24,739 way the inventory Stella there's 1531 01:17:27,670 --> 01:17:26,570 something knows that inventory still I'm 1532 01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:27,680 not making this up 1533 01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:30,410 and I can show if it's still on display 1534 01:17:35,890 --> 01:17:32,570 I'll show it to everyone when we go to 1535 01:17:37,900 --> 01:17:35,900 the Egyptian museums I'm not sure which 1536 01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:37,910 museum it's in at the moment cuz they're 1537 01:17:42,850 --> 01:17:40,250 moving things from the old museum to the 1538 01:17:45,100 --> 01:17:42,860 grand Egyptian Museum and so some things 1539 01:17:47,530 --> 01:17:45,110 may not be on display mark not I'll show 1540 01:17:50,110 --> 01:17:47,540 pictures of it but it's a little Stella 1541 01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:50,120 it's from the late period but it 1542 01:17:55,780 --> 01:17:52,610 purports and I think it purports 1543 01:17:58,630 --> 01:17:55,790 correctly to be a copy of a much much 1544 01:18:02,830 --> 01:17:58,640 earlier inscriptions in texts that go 1545 01:18:05,830 --> 01:18:02,840 back to the Old Kingdom and their Khufu 1546 01:18:08,290 --> 01:18:05,840 is recording recorded basically as 1547 01:18:10,900 --> 01:18:08,300 having taken care of these older 1548 01:18:12,940 --> 01:18:10,910 structures I'm I'm sir bastard I see at 1549 01:18:15,250 --> 01:18:12,950 the moment I'm simplifying it but 1550 01:18:17,770 --> 01:18:15,260 basically he was taking care of and 1551 01:18:21,460 --> 01:18:17,780 restoring older structures like the 1552 01:18:23,710 --> 01:18:21,470 Sphinx like the pyramids or the Great 1553 01:18:25,450 --> 01:18:23,720 Pyramid so in that sense maybe you 1554 01:18:27,580 --> 01:18:25,460 wouldn't want to calm the janitor but I 1555 01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:27,590 think many of them may have been proud 1556 01:18:34,290 --> 01:18:31,730 to be the caretakers of surf's ancient 1557 01:18:36,970 --> 01:18:34,300 sacred sites yeah maintenance crew 1558 01:18:41,110 --> 01:18:36,980 maintenance crew exactly out there with 1559 01:18:44,620 --> 01:18:41,120 a weedeater you know yeah what what do 1560 01:18:47,109 --> 01:18:44,630 they call the those things that's been 1561 01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:47,119 around quickly yeah yeah yeah 1562 01:18:53,709 --> 01:18:52,010 we eater and so yeah you know they had 1563 01:18:54,399 --> 01:18:53,719 to clear out Yeah Yeah right in the 1564 01:18:58,779 --> 01:18:54,409 desert 1565 01:19:02,169 --> 01:18:58,789 weeds in the does they do the jobless 1566 01:19:04,859 --> 01:19:02,179 way was inundated with with weeds so you 1567 01:19:08,589 --> 01:19:04,869 know you got to keep that pathway clean 1568 01:19:11,350 --> 01:19:08,599 you know and I say that in jest but not 1569 01:19:14,319 --> 01:19:11,360 really well no not really because when 1570 01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:14,329 you look at the grape any of those this 1571 01:19:20,379 --> 01:19:16,010 Fink's in particular but the great 1572 01:19:22,179 --> 01:19:20,389 pyramid etc if you don't brush away the 1573 01:19:26,009 --> 01:19:22,189 sand and whatnot you're on the edge of 1574 01:19:28,209 --> 01:19:26,019 the Sahara Desert if the sand piles up 1575 01:19:30,069 --> 01:19:28,219 so in fact they do need constant 1576 01:19:32,949 --> 01:19:30,079 maintenance and that goes back to 1577 01:19:35,770 --> 01:19:32,959 ancient times when we I say ancient 1578 01:19:38,709 --> 01:19:35,780 times that goes back to dynastic time so 1579 01:19:40,689 --> 01:19:38,719 the dynastic Egyptians record how they 1580 01:19:43,719 --> 01:19:40,699 were digging the Sphinx out of the sand 1581 01:19:45,699 --> 01:19:43,729 they record how they had to you know 1582 01:19:48,159 --> 01:19:45,709 basically do cleaning on the Giza 1583 01:19:51,100 --> 01:19:48,169 Plateau to keep everything free of sand 1584 01:19:54,429 --> 01:19:51,110 now let's let's stay on the science side 1585 01:19:56,529 --> 01:19:54,439 of this we've got so much that we want 1586 01:20:00,429 --> 01:19:56,539 to discuss tonight I don't think we ever 1587 01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:00,439 left the science side no I could though 1588 01:20:07,810 --> 01:20:04,610 so let's let's let's discuss this the MU 1589 01:20:09,609 --> 01:20:07,820 on project and okay and one of and we 1590 01:20:12,810 --> 01:20:09,619 can you know continue after the break 1591 01:20:17,350 --> 01:20:12,820 but one of the things about this that 1592 01:20:20,379 --> 01:20:17,360 left a great taste in my mouth was how 1593 01:20:21,819 --> 01:20:20,389 Zahi Hawass has said over and over again 1594 01:20:26,369 --> 01:20:21,829 there's nothing to see here 1595 01:20:30,250 --> 01:20:26,379 and here this project clearly has found 1596 01:20:33,569 --> 01:20:30,260 a new chamber above the Grand Gallery 1597 01:20:37,209 --> 01:20:33,579 where there was supposed to be nothing 1598 01:20:40,270 --> 01:20:37,219 again the science is overlapping our 1599 01:20:43,330 --> 01:20:40,280 community isn't it Robert oh yeah 1600 01:20:45,399 --> 01:20:43,340 absolutely absolutely so so what we're 1601 01:20:48,399 --> 01:20:45,409 talking about just so everyone knows is 1602 01:20:51,969 --> 01:20:48,409 the MU ography or the MU on project it's 1603 01:20:55,119 --> 01:20:51,979 also known as scan pyramids and this is 1604 01:20:57,339 --> 01:20:55,129 a bunch of top-notch physicists again so 1605 01:21:00,300 --> 01:20:57,349 it's interesting how a lot of physics in 1606 01:21:02,970 --> 01:21:00,310 geophysics is being you 1607 01:21:05,700 --> 01:21:02,980 on the plateau now this is something I 1608 01:21:07,830 --> 01:21:05,710 why I hate to say it this way but I feel 1609 01:21:10,770 --> 01:21:07,840 like I helped pioneer this back in the 1610 01:21:13,230 --> 01:21:10,780 1990s when with Thomas de Becky a 1611 01:21:15,930 --> 01:21:13,240 geophysicist we found a chamber under 1612 01:21:17,940 --> 01:21:15,940 the paw of the Sphinx and I want to come 1613 01:21:21,570 --> 01:21:17,950 back to that because I'm a big analogy 1614 01:21:24,140 --> 01:21:21,580 here yes they're using mu ons mu ography 1615 01:21:30,210 --> 01:21:24,150 this is a skin pyramid project 1616 01:21:32,450 --> 01:21:30,220 consortium of French Japanese big 1617 01:21:35,340 --> 01:21:32,460 Japanese contingent I think French 1618 01:21:38,970 --> 01:21:35,350 Canadians etc but really top-notch 1619 01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:38,980 physicists bring in incredible equipment 1620 01:21:43,980 --> 01:21:41,170 and what they're doing is setting up 1621 01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:43,990 detectors in and around the Great 1622 01:21:50,310 --> 01:21:46,330 Pyramid they've set up detectors to 1623 01:21:53,480 --> 01:21:50,320 capture mulan's so it's very similar to 1624 01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:53,490 what people knows x-rays muons are 1625 01:21:58,140 --> 01:21:56,050 essentially like electrons but much 1626 01:22:02,100 --> 01:21:58,150 heavier and much shorter half-life 1627 01:22:05,730 --> 01:22:02,110 half-life of millionths of a second they 1628 01:22:08,250 --> 01:22:05,740 the mulan's are produced in the 1629 01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:08,260 atmosphere from cosmic rays hitting 1630 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:12,370 different types of atoms they basically 1631 01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:14,410 break up that and so hit the atoms they 1632 01:22:20,700 --> 01:22:17,170 release Mulan's in some cases that 1633 01:22:22,710 --> 01:22:20,710 stream down and we have mulan's going 1634 01:22:24,510 --> 01:22:22,720 through us all the time you and I and 1635 01:22:26,190 --> 01:22:24,520 everyone that's listening has muuns 1636 01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:26,200 flowing through their body they don't 1637 01:22:32,430 --> 01:22:29,290 interact with matter as we know it 1638 01:22:35,790 --> 01:22:32,440 matter that we're used to they have very 1639 01:22:37,710 --> 01:22:35,800 very very low interactions with that but 1640 01:22:41,820 --> 01:22:37,720 when you have something like the Great 1641 01:22:44,430 --> 01:22:41,830 Pyramid with all this stone work a few 1642 01:22:48,060 --> 01:22:44,440 of the MU ones do interact with the 1643 01:22:50,340 --> 01:22:48,070 stone so this nuance slowed down or they 1644 01:22:53,310 --> 01:22:50,350 are attenuated there's not as many mu 1645 01:22:55,950 --> 01:22:53,320 ones coming through where you have huge 1646 01:22:58,410 --> 01:22:55,960 masses of stone so if you put in 1647 01:23:01,680 --> 01:22:58,420 detectors in and around the Great 1648 01:23:04,650 --> 01:23:01,690 Pyramid you can detect if there's some 1649 01:23:06,330 --> 01:23:04,660 places where more moons are flowing 1650 01:23:08,490 --> 01:23:06,340 through that which show cavities that 1651 01:23:10,050 --> 01:23:08,500 would show empty chamber so that's 1652 01:23:12,810 --> 01:23:10,060 exactly what they're doing that that 1653 01:23:14,220 --> 01:23:12,820 makes sense yes it does and what so it's 1654 01:23:16,410 --> 01:23:14,230 like an x-ray and 1655 01:23:18,270 --> 01:23:16,420 they have found and I have looked at all 1656 01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:18,280 the original data and read their 1657 01:23:23,340 --> 01:23:20,890 original papers and whatnot and I'm 1658 01:23:26,310 --> 01:23:23,350 convinced it's really good data and a 1659 01:23:31,410 --> 01:23:26,320 very convincing case they have found a 1660 01:23:34,229 --> 01:23:31,420 huge chamber probably parallel or sub 1661 01:23:36,300 --> 01:23:34,239 parallel to the Grand Gallery above the 1662 01:23:38,820 --> 01:23:36,310 Grand Gallery so to put it in 1663 01:23:44,070 --> 01:23:38,830 perspective this is probably about 30 1664 01:23:46,290 --> 01:23:44,080 feet tall maybe 7 feet wide maybe a 1665 01:23:50,130 --> 01:23:46,300 hundred and fifty feet long so you're 1666 01:23:52,470 --> 01:23:50,140 talking a major chamber paralleling the 1667 01:23:55,950 --> 01:23:52,480 Grand Gallery that's not supposed to be 1668 01:23:58,770 --> 01:23:55,960 there according to Egyptologists because 1669 01:24:00,690 --> 01:23:58,780 there there's more mulan's coming 1670 01:24:02,700 --> 01:24:00,700 through and you can detect it that way 1671 01:24:05,700 --> 01:24:02,710 and they've done it from several 1672 01:24:09,030 --> 01:24:05,710 different angles using several different 1673 01:24:11,490 --> 01:24:09,040 types of luan detectors etc they're all 1674 01:24:14,190 --> 01:24:11,500 saying the same thing so to me it's 1675 01:24:18,210 --> 01:24:14,200 really good data and really exciting and 1676 01:24:20,580 --> 01:24:18,220 then there it was a second chamber that 1677 01:24:23,910 --> 01:24:20,590 they found a smaller one on the North 1678 01:24:26,340 --> 01:24:23,920 Face yes more on the on the face near 1679 01:24:29,190 --> 01:24:26,350 the entrance near the known entrance 1680 01:24:32,310 --> 01:24:29,200 serve above it I wasn't surprised by 1681 01:24:33,930 --> 01:24:32,320 that one at all because architecture it 1682 01:24:36,180 --> 01:24:33,940 always looked to me like there was 1683 01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:36,190 probably something up there in that 1684 01:24:43,020 --> 01:24:39,370 space and they seem to have detected 1685 01:24:45,300 --> 01:24:43,030 that also with the same technique also 1686 01:24:49,830 --> 01:24:45,310 they've done some thermal imaging which 1687 01:24:51,810 --> 01:24:49,840 seems to detect the same chamber that 1688 01:24:53,220 --> 01:24:51,820 there's something going on there so one 1689 01:24:56,010 --> 01:24:53,230 thing I would stress is you've got 1690 01:24:59,850 --> 01:24:56,020 multiple lines of evidence all detecting 1691 01:25:01,650 --> 01:24:59,860 these in the same spaces I also wanted 1692 01:25:03,060 --> 01:25:01,660 to mention I hate to sound I don't want 1693 01:25:06,060 --> 01:25:03,070 to sound the wrong way but you have a 1694 01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:06,070 bunch of Egyptologists like Zahi Hawass 1695 01:25:10,860 --> 01:25:09,130 and mark Lehner who are dismissing this 1696 01:25:12,990 --> 01:25:10,870 completely and saying that there's 1697 01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:13,000 nothing there or if there is anything 1698 01:25:17,850 --> 01:25:15,489 there is just a few little cavities 1699 01:25:20,700 --> 01:25:17,860 between the rocks I mean they're just 1700 01:25:23,700 --> 01:25:20,710 going crazy trying to dismiss it and 1701 01:25:25,620 --> 01:25:23,710 when I read their rebuttals in some 1702 01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:25,630 cases which are just made to the press 1703 01:25:28,830 --> 01:25:26,320 it's 1704 01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:28,840 fairly evident to me they have not 1705 01:25:33,480 --> 01:25:31,090 looked at the raw data or if they have 1706 01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:33,490 they haven't understood it because some 1707 01:25:40,110 --> 01:25:36,730 of the comments they make seem to 1708 01:25:45,050 --> 01:25:40,120 indicate an ignorance of the subject 1709 01:25:48,150 --> 01:25:45,060 matter shape do you and Mark talk no I 1710 01:25:49,350 --> 01:25:48,160 have been seen I haven't no no I'm not 1711 01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:49,360 in a nasty sense 1712 01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:51,250 I just haven't run across him or seen 1713 01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:53,650 him in years right so you guys are over 1714 01:25:58,950 --> 01:25:56,530 decades now right right not going back 1715 01:26:00,930 --> 01:25:58,960 to these it's not that no it's not like 1716 01:26:03,150 --> 01:26:00,940 we've run into each other and refused to 1717 01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:03,160 talk I literally just haven't had any 1718 01:26:09,690 --> 01:26:06,010 contact with them it's but I haven't 1719 01:26:12,590 --> 01:26:09,700 started out either I can understand I 1720 01:26:15,450 --> 01:26:12,600 I've seen Joe Hawass a number of times 1721 01:26:19,230 --> 01:26:15,460 over the last couple of decades 1722 01:26:21,510 --> 01:26:19,240 I'm not real recently but I was always 1723 01:26:24,330 --> 01:26:21,520 on much better terms with him well I 1724 01:26:27,030 --> 01:26:24,340 only bring it up because I've only got 1725 01:26:30,150 --> 01:26:27,040 about a minute before the break that for 1726 01:26:34,710 --> 01:26:30,160 Mark and for Zahi for them to have stood 1727 01:26:37,170 --> 01:26:34,720 their ground so firmly on what the Great 1728 01:26:41,220 --> 01:26:37,180 Pyramid could be you know they've closed 1729 01:26:43,440 --> 01:26:41,230 those doors if yes if this this they're 1730 01:26:46,890 --> 01:26:43,450 gonna have to backpedal omastar yeah 1731 01:26:50,130 --> 01:26:46,900 yeah it becomes hard when you surf put 1732 01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:50,140 so much emphasis on one view when you've 1733 01:26:55,620 --> 01:26:53,130 written so many books and articles 1734 01:26:57,350 --> 01:26:55,630 promoting that one view and then you 1735 01:27:00,390 --> 01:26:57,360 have data that comes out that 1736 01:27:02,580 --> 01:27:00,400 contradicts it I mean I understand where 1737 01:27:04,050 --> 01:27:02,590 they're coming from and I feel I don't 1738 01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:04,060 know I was going to say I feel bad for 1739 01:27:10,470 --> 01:27:07,090 them I don't feel bad for them but you 1740 01:27:13,470 --> 01:27:10,480 know they have a lot of vested interest 1741 01:27:15,420 --> 01:27:13,480 in the way they see things they don't 1742 01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:15,430 want to change let's take a break right 1743 01:27:19,350 --> 01:27:17,530 here our guest tonight dr. Robert M 1744 01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:19,360 shock yeah I've always wondered by the 1745 01:27:24,150 --> 01:27:22,090 way when I've looked at that entrance on 1746 01:27:27,390 --> 01:27:24,160 the north face that there is so much 1747 01:27:29,550 --> 01:27:27,400 more underneath those that first layer 1748 01:27:32,100 --> 01:27:29,560 of construction this is fade to black 1749 01:27:33,209 --> 01:27:32,110 I'm Merrill to be Church more with dr. 1750 01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:33,219 Schaack after this short 1751 01:27:36,890 --> 01:27:47,420 [Music] 1752 01:27:54,660 --> 01:27:50,630 way out here we listen to Jimmy Church 1753 01:27:56,940 --> 01:27:54,670 you're listening to fade to black always 1754 01:27:59,820 --> 01:27:56,950 on the edge of the hottest alternative 1755 01:28:19,050 --> 01:27:59,830 talk chilly church with fade to black 1756 01:28:22,770 --> 01:28:19,060 stay GRA radio.com hurricanes 1757 01:28:24,510 --> 01:28:22,780 earthquakes wildfires this year we've 1758 01:28:27,300 --> 01:28:24,520 experienced more than our fair share 1759 01:28:29,790 --> 01:28:27,310 this is Jimmy Church a fade to black and 1760 01:28:32,010 --> 01:28:29,800 last month I decided to make sure my 1761 01:28:34,140 --> 01:28:32,020 family does not have to worry about food 1762 01:28:37,890 --> 01:28:34,150 should we get caught in a real emergency 1763 01:28:39,780 --> 01:28:37,900 situation introducing Humana a healthy 1764 01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:39,790 storable product that tastes so good 1765 01:28:43,380 --> 01:28:41,410 that you'll want to eat it every day 1766 01:28:46,140 --> 01:28:43,390 instead of just during those times of 1767 01:28:49,530 --> 01:28:46,150 duress all new manna products have a 25 1768 01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:49,540 year shelf life our msg and GMO free no 1769 01:28:54,090 --> 01:28:51,970 preservatives and are made in America 1770 01:28:55,890 --> 01:28:54,100 with the new manna pack in your home 1771 01:28:58,710 --> 01:28:55,900 you'll be able to sleep at night knowing 1772 01:29:01,860 --> 01:28:58,720 that you protected your family not only 1773 01:29:04,230 --> 01:29:01,870 have I tasted and tested I own it now 1774 01:29:06,540 --> 01:29:04,240 you can too just click on the new manna 1775 01:29:08,610 --> 01:29:06,550 banner on Jimmy Church radio.com and use 1776 01:29:11,010 --> 01:29:08,620 the promo code Jimmy when you order in 1777 01:29:13,010 --> 01:29:11,020 addition to a discount we'll send you an 1778 01:29:17,010 --> 01:29:13,020 autographed fade to black t-shirt 1779 01:29:18,540 --> 01:29:17,020 seriously gobekli tepe do you worry a 1780 01:29:20,930 --> 01:29:18,550 lot whether you're a college student 1781 01:29:23,430 --> 01:29:20,940 busy professional parent or grandparent 1782 01:29:25,500 --> 01:29:23,440 ongoing stress and elevated levels of 1783 01:29:27,570 --> 01:29:25,510 the stress hormone cortisol can rob your 1784 01:29:29,790 --> 01:29:27,580 memory your health and your future 1785 01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:29,800 now you can combat the effects of stress 1786 01:29:33,750 --> 01:29:31,690 and anxiety while improving your memory 1787 01:29:35,850 --> 01:29:33,760 and recall at the same time with the 1788 01:29:37,620 --> 01:29:35,860 dietary supplement calm and clever 1789 01:29:39,750 --> 01:29:37,630 studies showed that the ingredients in 1790 01:29:41,940 --> 01:29:39,760 common clever reduce cortisol by as much 1791 01:29:43,890 --> 01:29:41,950 as 30% in one to two weeks 1792 01:29:46,910 --> 01:29:43,900 call 1-800 seven five eight eight seven 1793 01:29:50,630 --> 01:29:46,920 four six or calm and clever calm 1794 01:29:59,900 --> 01:29:50,640 you listen to us and we listen to you so 1795 01:30:01,880 --> 01:29:59,910 does the CIA jgr a radio.com you are 1796 01:30:06,590 --> 01:30:01,890 listening to fade to black with Jimmy 1797 01:30:09,110 --> 01:30:06,600 Church on the game changer Network hi 1798 01:30:11,810 --> 01:30:09,120 I'm Lisa Vance you're listening to Jim 1799 01:30:14,630 --> 01:30:11,820 II Church this is revolution the 1800 01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:14,640 revolution will not be televised the 1801 01:30:55,860 --> 01:30:53,189 [Music] 1802 01:30:59,970 --> 01:30:55,870 the 1803 01:31:03,940 --> 01:31:02,350 all right welcome back fade to black 1804 01:31:06,610 --> 01:31:03,950 cover your host Timmy church our guest 1805 01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:06,620 tonight dr. Robert Emms shot for doing 1806 01:31:12,430 --> 01:31:09,650 all things Egypt tonight lots and lots 1807 01:31:13,810 --> 01:31:12,440 of breaking news out of Egypt the 1808 01:31:16,270 --> 01:31:13,820 segment of fade to black is proudly 1809 01:31:18,490 --> 01:31:16,280 brought to you by new manna emergency 1810 01:31:20,890 --> 01:31:18,500 food storage for you and your family 1811 01:31:22,900 --> 01:31:20,900 click on the new mana banners over to me 1812 01:31:26,020 --> 01:31:22,910 church radio comm use the promo code 1813 01:31:28,480 --> 01:31:26,030 jimmy 10 jimmy 10 will get you 10% off 1814 01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:28,490 it'll get you free shipping and it will 1815 01:31:33,730 --> 01:31:30,770 also get to every order over $100 an 1816 01:31:35,500 --> 01:31:33,740 autograph fade to black t-shirt dr. 1817 01:31:39,850 --> 01:31:35,510 Schaack do you have a fade to black 1818 01:31:43,300 --> 01:31:39,860 t-shirt no I don't I had Oh Katie Katie 1819 01:31:49,540 --> 01:31:43,310 has yours oh she has mine okay yeah you 1820 01:31:52,300 --> 01:31:49,550 need to be my wife you need to go talk 1821 01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:52,310 to Katie I could just see you on the 1822 01:31:55,900 --> 01:31:54,170 next Egypt or wearing a faded black 1823 01:32:00,340 --> 01:31:55,910 t-shirt because you're a rock and roller 1824 01:32:02,980 --> 01:32:00,350 and we have we got to get that fixed the 1825 01:32:04,810 --> 01:32:02,990 second Sphinx now you know wait wait 1826 01:32:07,300 --> 01:32:04,820 wait before we get to second things can 1827 01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:07,310 I say one more thing sure because we 1828 01:32:11,590 --> 01:32:09,290 were just talking about through ography 1829 01:32:15,060 --> 01:32:11,600 and that type of thing so I found it 1830 01:32:18,730 --> 01:32:15,070 very funny the physicist described this 1831 01:32:22,690 --> 01:32:18,740 this chamber this on the chamber they 1832 01:32:24,940 --> 01:32:22,700 found above the Grand Gallery and they 1833 01:32:28,750 --> 01:32:24,950 described it very matter-of-factly as a 1834 01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:28,760 void a big void when something's 150 1835 01:32:33,460 --> 01:32:31,850 feet long etc it is a big void I think 1836 01:32:36,070 --> 01:32:33,470 that's very descriptive 1837 01:32:38,140 --> 01:32:36,080 then the Ministry of Antiquities and the 1838 01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:38,150 Egyptologists were all up in arms and 1839 01:32:46,750 --> 01:32:42,530 they said oh that's propaganda the what 1840 01:32:48,430 --> 01:32:46,760 what do you think it could be what I 1841 01:32:50,770 --> 01:32:48,440 mean by that is this it could could it 1842 01:32:52,900 --> 01:32:50,780 be like an escape route for those that 1843 01:32:55,390 --> 01:32:52,910 built the room no I don't think you're 1844 01:32:57,190 --> 01:32:55,400 talking escape route because not when 1845 01:32:59,470 --> 01:32:57,200 you're talking something that big I 1846 01:33:01,870 --> 01:32:59,480 think it might be holding something it 1847 01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:01,880 might be holding records or something 1848 01:33:07,690 --> 01:33:05,570 like that not unlike the chamber under 1849 01:33:10,270 --> 01:33:07,700 the pod the Sphinx that we found and 1850 01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:10,280 what I wanted to say before the break as 1851 01:33:13,390 --> 01:33:12,050 I said I want to come back to this for 1852 01:33:16,209 --> 01:33:13,400 just a second 1853 01:33:18,060 --> 01:33:16,219 I have incredible sympathy for what 1854 01:33:21,570 --> 01:33:18,070 they're going through now with the 1855 01:33:24,340 --> 01:33:21,580 Egyptologist denying the physics that 1856 01:33:26,169 --> 01:33:24,350 found this chamber and of course it 1857 01:33:28,300 --> 01:33:26,179 still has to be explored it would be 1858 01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:28,310 nice to drill into it and see what's 1859 01:33:33,910 --> 01:33:31,370 physically there etc do I expect that to 1860 01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:33,920 happen anytime soon not necessarily no 1861 01:33:38,110 --> 01:33:36,650 knowing how things go in Egypt but it's 1862 01:33:40,660 --> 01:33:38,120 being totally dismissed 1863 01:33:43,540 --> 01:33:40,670 they even though it's based on film I'm 1864 01:33:46,780 --> 01:33:43,550 sorry even though it's based on sound 1865 01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:46,790 physics and I experienced the same thing 1866 01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:49,010 when we found the chamber under the paw 1867 01:33:54,610 --> 01:33:52,010 of the Sphinx they dismissed that too 1868 01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:54,620 and basically put a squelch on their 1869 01:33:59,470 --> 01:33:56,570 research and said this was propaganda 1870 01:34:01,180 --> 01:33:59,480 it's stealing Egypt from the Egyptians 1871 01:34:06,419 --> 01:34:01,190 they're doing the same thing with this 1872 01:34:08,950 --> 01:34:06,429 so there's this weird resistance to to 1873 01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:08,960 developing new theories new evidence 1874 01:34:14,140 --> 01:34:11,810 well they're talking about doing the 1875 01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:14,150 gate and brink model you know they're 1876 01:34:19,149 --> 01:34:18,010 talking about now bill you know putting 1877 01:34:23,709 --> 01:34:19,159 yeah 1878 01:34:25,689 --> 01:34:23,719 for this though there's no no passages 1879 01:34:27,310 --> 01:34:25,699 that go up to it that anyone knows at 1880 01:34:29,020 --> 01:34:27,320 this point well I was gonna ask you 1881 01:34:35,260 --> 01:34:29,030 about that at the top of the Grand 1882 01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:35,270 Gallery where have you looked up yes I 1883 01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:37,010 know what you're talking about but 1884 01:34:44,290 --> 01:34:39,050 there's no evidence that this goes into 1885 01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:44,300 that what was just found you don't know 1886 01:34:50,860 --> 01:34:48,770 no you don't and I need your academic 1887 01:34:51,459 --> 01:34:50,870 eyeballs you know up there at the top of 1888 01:34:53,350 --> 01:34:51,469 the stairs 1889 01:34:57,209 --> 01:34:53,360 you know the entrance into the King's 1890 01:35:01,479 --> 01:34:57,219 Chamber and kind of the possibility of 1891 01:35:03,370 --> 01:35:01,489 something blocking a tunnel going into I 1892 01:35:06,010 --> 01:35:03,380 mean because you know when you go into 1893 01:35:08,410 --> 01:35:06,020 the King's Chamber there are some blocks 1894 01:35:12,250 --> 01:35:08,420 that look fairly loose that type of 1895 01:35:14,770 --> 01:35:12,260 thing well you tell me I mean you you've 1896 01:35:17,830 --> 01:35:14,780 been there do you think that that there 1897 01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:17,840 is a possibility of getting into this 1898 01:35:23,140 --> 01:35:20,210 newly discovered chamber not not 1899 01:35:25,810 --> 01:35:23,150 probably not from there because of the 1900 01:35:27,100 --> 01:35:25,820 positioning of it that type of thing and 1901 01:35:29,440 --> 01:35:27,110 I've been up in 1902 01:35:31,390 --> 01:35:29,450 to the so called relieving chambers or 1903 01:35:34,690 --> 01:35:31,400 relief chambers or chambers of 1904 01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:34,700 construction above the King's Chamber I 1905 01:35:40,540 --> 01:35:37,250 don't know many people have been up 1906 01:35:44,530 --> 01:35:40,550 there but I'm one of them and I saw no 1907 01:35:47,590 --> 01:35:44,540 way to go from that into this new big 1908 01:35:50,050 --> 01:35:47,600 void as they call it so it may be 1909 01:35:52,570 --> 01:35:50,060 totally sealed off but we just don't 1910 01:35:55,390 --> 01:35:52,580 know for certain it really is going to 1911 01:35:58,090 --> 01:35:55,400 take more study and there's the problem 1912 01:36:00,220 --> 01:35:58,100 will the Egyptian authorities allow that 1913 01:36:03,940 --> 01:36:00,230 study to continue I don't know now I 1914 01:36:07,390 --> 01:36:03,950 heard a rumor I want to run this past 1915 01:36:13,420 --> 01:36:07,400 you that there was a period of a couple 1916 01:36:15,070 --> 01:36:13,430 of months where they had some tents set 1917 01:36:17,170 --> 01:36:15,080 up and some trucks outside of the 1918 01:36:21,580 --> 01:36:17,180 entrance of the grant the Great Pyramid 1919 01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:21,590 yeah and that they were they they gained 1920 01:36:28,990 --> 01:36:25,610 access to the chamber removed the stuff 1921 01:36:32,770 --> 01:36:29,000 that they found and it will be part of 1922 01:36:34,420 --> 01:36:32,780 the new grand museum's opening well 1923 01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:34,430 which chamber you're talking about the 1924 01:36:38,890 --> 01:36:36,770 new chamber above the Grand Gallery that 1925 01:36:41,290 --> 01:36:38,900 they actually go no no no they didn't 1926 01:36:43,480 --> 01:36:41,300 get into that what does timber the best 1927 01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:43,490 of my knowledge those tents and trucks 1928 01:36:51,070 --> 01:36:45,890 and whatnot right that was that was some 1929 01:36:52,900 --> 01:36:51,080 thermal imaging instruments that the 1930 01:36:55,870 --> 01:36:52,910 physicists we were talking about the 1931 01:36:58,720 --> 01:36:55,880 scan pyramids physicists were using to 1932 01:37:02,680 --> 01:36:58,730 do thermal imaging of the Great Pyramid 1933 01:37:06,060 --> 01:37:02,690 because what you have is that the Great 1934 01:37:08,740 --> 01:37:06,070 Pyramid heats up and cooled down between 1935 01:37:12,100 --> 01:37:08,750 you know the daylight hours in the 1936 01:37:14,740 --> 01:37:12,110 nighttime hours etc but different rocks 1937 01:37:17,350 --> 01:37:14,750 absorb in a mid heat in different 1938 01:37:18,310 --> 01:37:17,360 amounts and also they cool down in 1939 01:37:20,830 --> 01:37:18,320 different ways 1940 01:37:22,900 --> 01:37:20,840 and they will cool down quicker or 1941 01:37:25,390 --> 01:37:22,910 slower depending not just on the rock 1942 01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:25,400 type but if there's cavities behind them 1943 01:37:31,990 --> 01:37:28,730 and in found fact they found what may be 1944 01:37:34,540 --> 01:37:32,000 some cavities that way or chambers 1945 01:37:37,450 --> 01:37:34,550 whatever you want to call it using that 1946 01:37:38,770 --> 01:37:37,460 type of thermal imaging I mean I saw 1947 01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:38,780 that they were there that's what they 1948 01:37:43,860 --> 01:37:39,890 were doing there 1949 01:37:47,140 --> 01:37:43,870 so you don't think there is a 1950 01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:47,150 possibility that for the grand opening 1951 01:37:53,020 --> 01:37:50,090 they just do this huge reveal oh by the 1952 01:37:58,000 --> 01:37:53,030 way no no I actually don't 1953 01:38:00,100 --> 01:37:58,010 I mean is it remotely possible one you 1954 01:38:04,210 --> 01:38:00,110 know point zero zero zero one percent 1955 01:38:07,660 --> 01:38:04,220 probability but no I don't think so 1956 01:38:10,270 --> 01:38:07,670 partly I don't think you know to try to 1957 01:38:13,020 --> 01:38:10,280 move anything around in Egypt to try to 1958 01:38:16,180 --> 01:38:13,030 go into something like that without 1959 01:38:19,540 --> 01:38:16,190 anyone detecting it without anyone 1960 01:38:22,540 --> 01:38:19,550 leaking that type of thing you know 1961 01:38:27,330 --> 01:38:22,550 between security between the practical 1962 01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:27,340 aspects of it the keeping everyone quiet 1963 01:38:33,150 --> 01:38:30,170 it's not realistic I don't think that 1964 01:38:37,540 --> 01:38:33,160 they they've been able to do that now 1965 01:38:39,250 --> 01:38:37,550 and staying on this we have the new 1966 01:38:41,260 --> 01:38:39,260 museum which is going to open up in 1967 01:38:44,410 --> 01:38:41,270 November yeah and this is a grand 1968 01:38:47,770 --> 01:38:44,420 Egyptian Museum and this is on site at 1969 01:38:50,950 --> 01:38:47,780 Giza great for job it's about it's a 1970 01:38:54,310 --> 01:38:50,960 couple of kilometers basically north of 1971 01:38:56,650 --> 01:38:54,320 the pyramids you and I were talking over 1972 01:38:59,050 --> 01:38:56,660 the phone privately and I'll describe it 1973 01:39:01,630 --> 01:38:59,060 now they among other things are going to 1974 01:39:05,050 --> 01:39:01,640 have a big sort of a big picture window 1975 01:39:07,570 --> 01:39:05,060 view of the pyramids from the grand 1976 01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:07,580 Egyptian Museum Katie and I had the 1977 01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:11,330 opportunity to visit it while it's you 1978 01:39:16,510 --> 01:39:13,370 know it's still under construction and 1979 01:39:19,480 --> 01:39:16,520 we saw parts of it not so much the 1980 01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:19,490 exhibit areas but the first thing they 1981 01:39:24,450 --> 01:39:21,890 completed were the conservation areas 1982 01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:24,460 because they're bringing statues and 1983 01:39:28,780 --> 01:39:27,050 artifacts and that type of thing into 1984 01:39:30,850 --> 01:39:28,790 the museum so the first thing they have 1985 01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:30,860 to do is take care of them preserve them 1986 01:39:36,850 --> 01:39:34,130 conserve them before they actually put 1987 01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:36,860 them on display but there I want to say 1988 01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:38,930 the whole museum's costing hundreds of 1989 01:39:43,810 --> 01:39:41,210 millions maybe half a billion dollars I 1990 01:39:45,450 --> 01:39:43,820 mean this is a major project what are 1991 01:39:48,370 --> 01:39:45,460 they going to do with the old museum I 1992 01:39:50,910 --> 01:39:48,380 don't know I don't know I hope that they 1993 01:39:54,010 --> 01:39:50,920 preserve it because it's a beautiful 1994 01:39:58,060 --> 01:39:56,080 not building you know so it's a it's a 1995 01:40:00,520 --> 01:39:58,070 masterpiece in its own right it's not 1996 01:40:03,430 --> 01:40:00,530 what we expect what people expect of a 1997 01:40:05,980 --> 01:40:03,440 museum nowadays I personally hope that 1998 01:40:10,210 --> 01:40:05,990 they keep it open with just a few pieces 1999 01:40:12,340 --> 01:40:10,220 on display in the classic traditional 2000 01:40:15,580 --> 01:40:12,350 setting and if they don't I'll miss it 2001 01:40:17,830 --> 01:40:15,590 it's to be that's the Cairo Museum the 2002 01:40:20,470 --> 01:40:17,840 Egyptian Museum in Cairo but the grand 2003 01:40:24,190 --> 01:40:20,480 Egyptian Museum I think the new one is 2004 01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:24,200 going to be magnificent now this second 2005 01:40:29,770 --> 01:40:27,890 Sphinx you and I have done a couple of 2006 01:40:31,570 --> 01:40:29,780 shows about this in the past and the 2007 01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:31,580 fourth pyramid we've discussed this a 2008 01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:35,690 lot this news broke last week in the 2009 01:40:41,590 --> 01:40:38,530 week before that a second Sphinx was 2010 01:40:44,500 --> 01:40:41,600 discovered I want to I need you to help 2011 01:40:47,830 --> 01:40:44,510 me clarify what's going on they this is 2012 01:40:51,850 --> 01:40:47,840 now Luxor they're talking about and not 2013 01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:51,860 as well as Fink's on Giza which is yeah 2014 01:40:56,380 --> 01:40:53,690 and talked about a lot too you know 2015 01:40:58,930 --> 01:40:56,390 there's so much talk about second 2016 01:41:01,660 --> 01:40:58,940 sphinxes and i have lived through 2017 01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:01,670 decades of second Sphinx as I was 2018 01:41:05,770 --> 01:41:04,010 reflecting on this since you and I 2019 01:41:09,780 --> 01:41:05,780 talked privately on the phone a couple 2020 01:41:11,980 --> 01:41:09,790 of days ago before this radio show I 2021 01:41:15,460 --> 01:41:11,990 remember people coming out with the 2022 01:41:18,130 --> 01:41:15,470 seconds fix on the Giza Plateau several 2023 01:41:20,730 --> 01:41:18,140 different times I've been shown by I 2024 01:41:24,340 --> 01:41:20,740 don't even one name the name by the 2025 01:41:26,620 --> 01:41:24,350 Egyptian Egyptologist had he showed me 2026 01:41:27,550 --> 01:41:26,630 one area on the plateau I'll get to 2027 01:41:30,100 --> 01:41:27,560 Luxor a minute 2028 01:41:32,260 --> 01:41:30,110 he showed me one area on the plateau he 2029 01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:32,270 said oh this is the second Sphinx and 2030 01:41:36,430 --> 01:41:34,970 I'm not convinced that of it at all he 2031 01:41:39,220 --> 01:41:36,440 said well you can't really see it 2032 01:41:42,100 --> 01:41:39,230 anymore because it's been read and 2033 01:41:44,710 --> 01:41:42,110 modified and turned into tombs that sort 2034 01:41:46,900 --> 01:41:44,720 of west and south of the Sphinx and 2035 01:41:49,150 --> 01:41:46,910 there's another place where someone else 2036 01:41:50,980 --> 01:41:49,160 claims there's a sphinx sort of north 2037 01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:50,990 and west of the Sphinx on the plateau 2038 01:41:56,980 --> 01:41:54,650 I'm not convinced of that a lot of the 2039 01:42:01,270 --> 01:41:56,990 discussion of the second Sphinx is 2040 01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:01,280 because the stela between the paws of 2041 01:42:05,410 --> 01:42:02,930 the Sphinx and I will show this to 2042 01:42:07,959 --> 01:42:05,420 everyone who goes to Egypt with me we'll 2043 01:42:10,419 --> 01:42:07,969 see it on site there's this 2044 01:42:14,739 --> 01:42:10,429 big grin at Stella between the paws of 2045 01:42:19,620 --> 01:42:14,749 the Sphinx that was erected by top Moses 2046 01:42:23,020 --> 01:42:19,630 the fourth about 1400 BC when he dug out 2047 01:42:25,989 --> 01:42:23,030 what he considered a very ancient Sphinx 2048 01:42:28,569 --> 01:42:25,999 he dug it out the sand at that time as 2049 01:42:32,799 --> 01:42:28,579 he recourse the Sphinx was buried in 2050 01:42:36,489 --> 01:42:32,809 sand up to its neck he dug it out he put 2051 01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:36,499 this Stella this big granite carving 2052 01:42:42,580 --> 01:42:39,050 with hieroglyphic inscriptions all over 2053 01:42:46,239 --> 01:42:42,590 it between the paws of the Sphinx and on 2054 01:42:49,330 --> 01:42:46,249 it he shows not one Sphinx but two sinks 2055 01:42:51,129 --> 01:42:49,340 is so ever since then everyone's looking 2056 01:42:53,350 --> 01:42:51,139 for the second Sphinx because if there's 2057 01:42:55,870 --> 01:42:53,360 two sphinxes on the Stella between the 2058 01:42:58,359 --> 01:42:55,880 paws of the Sphinx people figure well 2059 01:43:02,080 --> 01:42:58,369 there must be the Great Sphinx and 2060 01:43:05,669 --> 01:43:02,090 another Sphinx so what came out recently 2061 01:43:09,719 --> 01:43:05,679 in the news was a quote second Sphinx in 2062 01:43:12,850 --> 01:43:09,729 Luxor which is you know way down south 2063 01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:12,860 up the Nile because the Nile flows from 2064 01:43:19,719 --> 01:43:16,130 south to north so way down south and 2065 01:43:22,540 --> 01:43:19,729 Luxor the problem is that this quotes 2066 01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:22,550 second Sphinx is about maybe not the 2067 01:43:25,959 --> 01:43:24,650 second Sphinx not the third Sphinx not 2068 01:43:30,339 --> 01:43:25,969 the fourth things from my perspective 2069 01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:30,349 but maybe Sphinx number 375 or who knows 2070 01:43:36,430 --> 01:43:32,690 what because there are Fink's is all 2071 01:43:39,100 --> 01:43:36,440 over Luxor and I actually looked it up 2072 01:43:40,870 --> 01:43:39,110 and I looked at looked at the links that 2073 01:43:42,549 --> 01:43:40,880 you and I discussed I looked up some 2074 01:43:46,049 --> 01:43:42,559 other research on it 2075 01:43:48,939 --> 01:43:46,059 and it's exactly where I would expect 2076 01:43:52,629 --> 01:43:48,949 another Sphinx to be found it's just a 2077 01:43:55,390 --> 01:43:52,639 big monolithic statue of a sphinx maybe 2078 01:43:58,419 --> 01:43:55,400 26 feet long I think in this case the 2079 01:44:02,830 --> 01:43:58,429 one they're talking about but 26 feet is 2080 01:44:06,459 --> 01:44:02,840 nothing compared to you know 240 feet or 2081 01:44:08,950 --> 01:44:06,469 whatever for the Great Sphinx and it 2082 01:44:10,660 --> 01:44:08,960 luxord they were carving Sphinx is all 2083 01:44:14,140 --> 01:44:10,670 over the place because they had an 2084 01:44:16,989 --> 01:44:14,150 avenue from what's now known as luxor 2085 01:44:18,939 --> 01:44:16,999 temple to karnak temple 2086 01:44:21,730 --> 01:44:18,949 you know several kilometers and that 2087 01:44:23,980 --> 01:44:21,740 avenue was lined with sphinxes 2088 01:44:26,140 --> 01:44:23,990 on either side so they find sphinxes all 2089 01:44:30,100 --> 01:44:26,150 the time whenever they you know build 2090 01:44:32,770 --> 01:44:30,110 brooch in that area why why don't take 2091 01:44:35,020 --> 01:44:32,780 it to this level second Sphinx because 2092 01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:35,030 second Sphinx only means one thing to 2093 01:44:39,310 --> 01:44:36,530 you and I in the rest of the community 2094 01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:39,320 that's exactly it so here's my theory 2095 01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:42,530 and it's not it I don't mean to be nasty 2096 01:44:50,250 --> 01:44:46,850 but when people say second Sphinx if 2097 01:44:53,110 --> 01:44:50,260 they release a news article or 2098 01:44:55,030 --> 01:44:53,120 announcement about a second Sphinx they 2099 01:44:57,880 --> 01:44:55,040 know that we're going to talk about on 2100 01:45:01,770 --> 01:44:57,890 the radio because seconds things to us 2101 01:45:05,440 --> 01:45:01,780 means a compliment to the great sphinx 2102 01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:05,450 another sphinx the size of this great 2103 01:45:11,500 --> 01:45:09,530 sphinx so you know basically a companion 2104 01:45:13,660 --> 01:45:11,510 to the great sphinx we're not thinking 2105 01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:13,670 about something that's maybe 20 or 30 2106 01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:15,290 feet long we're thinking of something 2107 01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:18,410 that's hundreds of feet long so it's 2108 01:45:25,180 --> 01:45:22,610 serve what did they say well to me in 2109 01:45:26,050 --> 01:45:25,190 advertising you you I'm switching bait 2110 01:45:30,730 --> 01:45:26,060 bait and switch 2111 01:45:32,470 --> 01:45:30,740 they say second Sphinx well it's not the 2112 01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:32,480 second Sphinx it's numbered Sphinx 2113 01:45:37,360 --> 01:45:34,850 number 375 as I would say I'm just 2114 01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:37,370 making up that number but they got your 2115 01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:39,410 attention and they want your attention 2116 01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:42,410 and then I was reading one article and 2117 01:45:46,660 --> 01:45:44,090 it even said well the authorities 2118 01:45:49,510 --> 01:45:46,670 haven't released a photograph of it but 2119 01:45:52,170 --> 01:45:49,520 they encourage tourists to come and 2120 01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:52,180 visit Luxor and see it for themselves 2121 01:45:56,770 --> 01:45:54,530 well what is this saying they want 2122 01:46:00,910 --> 01:45:56,780 tourism they want you to help the 2123 01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:00,920 Egyptian economy to be clear the Great 2124 01:46:09,100 --> 01:46:05,210 Sphinx was carved of the earth that's 2125 01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:09,110 right bedrock living rock it is still 2126 01:46:17,530 --> 01:46:14,570 attached still attached and so the this 2127 01:46:21,580 --> 01:46:17,540 second Sphinx that is in the news right 2128 01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:21,590 now in Lucky's are is portable it's a 2129 01:46:25,540 --> 01:46:23,690 portable statue oh yeah yeah I mean it 2130 01:46:29,650 --> 01:46:25,550 weighs what tens of tons I don't know 2131 01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:29,660 how much it weighs but its portable it's 2132 01:46:34,430 --> 01:46:31,610 a portable things there's a pocket space 2133 01:46:40,040 --> 01:46:34,440 compared to the Great Sphinx and 2134 01:46:41,480 --> 01:46:40,050 why okay so it's not let's be very clear 2135 01:46:43,910 --> 01:46:41,490 it's kind of like talking about the 2136 01:46:50,090 --> 01:46:43,920 Bosnian pyramids I need you to be very 2137 01:46:50,900 --> 01:46:50,100 clear here Robert no no impairment I'll 2138 01:46:53,030 --> 01:46:50,910 be blunt 2139 01:46:54,470 --> 01:46:53,040 you know you'd like me to be out that's 2140 01:46:56,480 --> 01:46:54,480 what I'm saying let's be it doesn't 2141 01:46:58,340 --> 01:46:56,490 matter it's people not going to be 2142 01:46:59,200 --> 01:46:58,350 dishonest anyway whether you like it or 2143 01:47:01,730 --> 01:46:59,210 not 2144 01:47:05,900 --> 01:47:01,740 Bosnian pyramids are nonsense they're 2145 01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:05,910 they're modern fake this is not a modern 2146 01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:08,610 fake but it's not the Great Sphinx it's 2147 01:47:13,820 --> 01:47:11,010 just another ancient things from about 2148 01:47:15,860 --> 01:47:13,830 three thousand plus years ago it's not 2149 01:47:20,300 --> 01:47:15,870 even as old as the Great Sphinx it's 2150 01:47:24,260 --> 01:47:20,310 much smaller and it's it's nice I might 2151 01:47:27,500 --> 01:47:24,270 love to have a mansion and have it in my 2152 01:47:28,250 --> 01:47:27,510 garden but it's not the Great Sphinx so 2153 01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:28,260 let's 2154 01:47:36,230 --> 01:47:33,690 Sphinx being discovered in Luxor theory 2155 01:47:39,170 --> 01:47:36,240 or suggestion okay but let's move yeah 2156 01:47:41,570 --> 01:47:39,180 yeah it's a sphinx that was discovered 2157 01:47:45,310 --> 01:47:41,580 in Luxor you find a lot of things in 2158 01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:45,320 Luxor and Luxor is beautiful people I 2159 01:47:50,660 --> 01:47:47,610 don't want to sound the wrong way but on 2160 01:47:53,450 --> 01:47:50,670 the trips I take people on we go and we 2161 01:47:56,900 --> 01:47:53,460 visit Luxor we see luxor temple we see 2162 01:47:58,880 --> 01:47:56,910 karnak temple we see the avenues Fink's 2163 01:48:03,410 --> 01:47:58,890 is and they'll know exactly what we're 2164 01:48:07,070 --> 01:48:03,420 talking about but but it's not the Great 2165 01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:07,080 Sphinx is there by going back to Giza is 2166 01:48:13,100 --> 01:48:11,130 there a possibility because it is there 2167 01:48:16,340 --> 01:48:13,110 on the the Sphinx teller there's no 2168 01:48:19,090 --> 01:48:16,350 doubt about at up Moses yeah clearly 2169 01:48:22,280 --> 01:48:19,100 stated he had a dream he fell asleep 2170 01:48:25,970 --> 01:48:22,290 it's you would be the next Pharaoh if 2171 01:48:29,900 --> 01:48:25,980 you unburied me you know that that that 2172 01:48:32,090 --> 01:48:29,910 story and he said on this dello that 2173 01:48:35,330 --> 01:48:32,100 there was a second Sphinx now if we look 2174 01:48:38,620 --> 01:48:35,340 at the Giza Plateau where could it be 2175 01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:38,630 I've always thought west northwest 2176 01:48:47,020 --> 01:48:44,330 corner up near the the 2177 01:48:49,090 --> 01:48:47,030 Cave right the bird yeah I mean I think 2178 01:48:51,820 --> 01:48:49,100 that would be a possibility something 2179 01:48:54,340 --> 01:48:51,830 that sir flinders petrie who was one of 2180 01:48:56,790 --> 01:48:54,350 the great Egyptologists and not it's 2181 01:48:58,860 --> 01:48:56,800 very funny not funny funny but 2182 01:49:02,610 --> 01:48:58,870 interesting that son of the great 2183 01:49:05,380 --> 01:49:02,620 Egyptologists of the late 19th early 2184 01:49:07,180 --> 01:49:05,390 2005 today I think they'd be very 2185 01:49:09,370 --> 01:49:07,190 disappointed with some of the modern 2186 01:49:12,100 --> 01:49:09,380 Egyptologists and how closed-minded they 2187 01:49:14,230 --> 01:49:12,110 are right but that's another comment he 2188 01:49:19,480 --> 01:49:14,240 thought that maybe it was across the 2189 01:49:22,210 --> 01:49:19,490 Nile on Heliopolis but these things ever 2190 01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:22,220 found it and you know what happened is a 2191 01:49:28,030 --> 01:49:25,250 lot of these areas are so built up now 2192 01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:28,040 and they've now people are living there 2193 01:49:33,460 --> 01:49:29,690 so whether you're talking across the 2194 01:49:37,900 --> 01:49:33,470 Nile or you're talking up in the 2195 01:49:41,260 --> 01:49:37,910 northwest corner i was looking at google 2196 01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:41,270 map actually with this in mind and if 2197 01:49:48,190 --> 01:49:45,050 you start looking at giza I mean I've 2198 01:49:51,670 --> 01:49:48,200 seen this in my own research in my own 2199 01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:51,680 time going back and forth to Egypt what 2200 01:49:59,740 --> 01:49:54,410 used to be desert to the west and north 2201 01:50:02,560 --> 01:49:59,750 of Giza is now all being built up so so 2202 01:50:04,180 --> 01:50:02,570 I'm afraid that maybe the second Sphinx 2203 01:50:06,340 --> 01:50:04,190 which I think there's a very good 2204 01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:06,350 possibility there really was a second 2205 01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:08,330 Sphinx or is a second Sphinx it may be 2206 01:50:13,420 --> 01:50:11,570 buried in sand and it may be it may even 2207 01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:13,430 be built over at this point 2208 01:50:22,630 --> 01:50:15,890 what about now we talked about geese a 2209 01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:22,640 lot but what about maybe in saqqara I'm 2210 01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:24,410 thinking about that's why I'm hesitating 2211 01:50:30,160 --> 01:50:27,530 I don't see any evidence of second 2212 01:50:32,410 --> 01:50:30,170 Sphinx as a car what I mean by that snow 2213 01:50:36,730 --> 01:50:32,420 if I saw a second thing sir I'd tell you 2214 01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:36,740 right away but sekar is a different very 2215 01:50:42,460 --> 01:50:39,050 different outline a very different plan 2216 01:50:45,550 --> 01:50:42,470 it has a very different should we say 2217 01:50:47,980 --> 01:50:45,560 feel to it what was being built there 2218 01:50:51,220 --> 01:50:47,990 what was being developed there and it 2219 01:50:53,380 --> 01:50:51,230 doesn't it doesn't intuitively strike me 2220 01:50:56,230 --> 01:50:53,390 as a place where you find a second 2221 01:50:57,160 --> 01:50:56,240 Sphinx just because it I don't know that 2222 01:50:59,740 --> 01:50:57,170 a second thing 2223 01:51:01,780 --> 01:50:59,750 what's it in there what you do have it's 2224 01:51:04,959 --> 01:51:01,790 a car which you and I have talked about 2225 01:51:07,390 --> 01:51:04,969 before is the Serapeum besides a step 2226 01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:07,400 pyramid but the Serapeum where you have 2227 01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:11,810 these huge huge huge granite 2228 01:51:18,030 --> 01:51:14,210 they called him sarcophagi I prefer the 2229 01:51:22,959 --> 01:51:18,040 term coffer but these huge granite boxes 2230 01:51:25,209 --> 01:51:22,969 which are quite inexplicable as to how 2231 01:51:29,979 --> 01:51:25,219 they got there they're underground in 2232 01:51:32,850 --> 01:51:29,989 this complex or tunnel system and they 2233 01:51:35,130 --> 01:51:32,860 were used traditionally the traditional 2234 01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:35,140 concept although this has never been 2235 01:51:42,090 --> 01:51:37,489 absolutely demonstrated they were used 2236 01:51:45,459 --> 01:51:42,100 for sacred Bulls mummified sacred Bulls 2237 01:51:47,410 --> 01:51:45,469 but they actually didn't find any in 2238 01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:47,420 them and you know they're they're quite 2239 01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:49,489 an explicable you have that there and 2240 01:51:56,380 --> 01:51:52,610 the other major thing that people think 2241 01:51:58,330 --> 01:51:56,390 of the car for is the Step Pyramid which 2242 01:52:00,220 --> 01:51:58,340 is a magnificent structure in its own 2243 01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:00,230 right but very different than the Giza 2244 01:52:07,450 --> 01:52:05,330 pyramids yeah I I the only sarcophagus 2245 01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:07,460 the big ones that I've seen are at the 2246 01:52:11,830 --> 01:52:09,770 Met in New York right now and they're 2247 01:52:19,630 --> 01:52:11,840 small compared to what you see in the 2248 01:52:23,169 --> 01:52:19,640 Serapeum exactly and it blows my mind 2249 01:52:26,290 --> 01:52:23,179 because when you go into they have one 2250 01:52:29,380 --> 01:52:26,300 massive one in the dendara glass room 2251 01:52:33,490 --> 01:52:29,390 right in the back and that thing is 2252 01:52:37,060 --> 01:52:33,500 probably six to eight feet wide six to 2253 01:52:41,470 --> 01:52:37,070 eight feet tall and it's got to be 12 to 2254 01:52:43,570 --> 01:52:41,480 14 feet long massive black granite and 2255 01:52:46,240 --> 01:52:43,580 they've got the lid there and you stand 2256 01:52:49,810 --> 01:52:46,250 there and you look at that and oh you 2257 01:52:53,919 --> 01:52:49,820 knock on it right and you realize it's 2258 01:52:56,290 --> 01:52:53,929 it's ginormous weight and size and then 2259 01:52:59,620 --> 01:52:56,300 you go and you think of this err p.m. 2260 01:53:02,770 --> 01:52:59,630 and where these are bigger than this and 2261 01:53:05,890 --> 01:53:02,780 I just can't I can't figure it out man 2262 01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:05,900 I'm and I'm at a complete loss oh it's 2263 01:53:10,950 --> 01:53:08,570 just insane it's just crazy but you know 2264 01:53:14,250 --> 01:53:10,960 this is part of the thing with the Egypt 2265 01:53:17,910 --> 01:53:14,260 it is it's unbelievable what they were 2266 01:53:22,440 --> 01:53:17,920 doing in terms of size when they were 2267 01:53:25,890 --> 01:53:22,450 building our carving stone and the you 2268 01:53:30,570 --> 01:53:25,900 know whether it's sarcophagi or obelisk 2269 01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:30,580 you know one piece solid Ovilus red 2270 01:53:39,090 --> 01:53:35,770 granite or incredible I was thinking you 2271 01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:39,100 go to constantinople istanbul modern 2272 01:53:44,970 --> 01:53:41,650 Istanbul and there's an obelisk there 2273 01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:44,980 that was imported from Egypt not even 2274 01:53:48,300 --> 01:53:47,410 particularly large and it's absolutely 2275 01:53:50,370 --> 01:53:48,310 incredible 2276 01:53:53,340 --> 01:53:50,380 then there's another obelisk that was 2277 01:53:56,430 --> 01:53:53,350 built on site well that was built you 2278 01:53:59,640 --> 01:53:56,440 know a thousand or so years later it's I 2279 01:54:02,430 --> 01:53:59,650 forget exactly how old is now but it's 2280 01:54:05,070 --> 01:54:02,440 much later than the Egyptian obelisk at 2281 01:54:06,780 --> 01:54:05,080 that point they couldn't carve one solid 2282 01:54:10,050 --> 01:54:06,790 piece of stone they had to cobble this 2283 01:54:11,910 --> 01:54:10,060 together with a bunch of stones versus 2284 01:54:14,700 --> 01:54:11,920 the Egyptians they would carve these 2285 01:54:17,490 --> 01:54:14,710 things from one solid piece of stone now 2286 01:54:19,380 --> 01:54:17,500 the obelisk are a sarcophagus or 2287 01:54:21,540 --> 01:54:19,390 whatever it's I mean it's incredible 2288 01:54:25,440 --> 01:54:21,550 well you're a geologist when you look at 2289 01:54:27,930 --> 01:54:25,450 these granite sarcophagus and you look 2290 01:54:30,510 --> 01:54:27,940 at the hieroglyphics that are carved 2291 01:54:33,030 --> 01:54:30,520 into them I don't care what year was 2292 01:54:38,729 --> 01:54:33,040 done I don't care if it was done in 2015 2293 01:54:43,070 --> 01:54:38,739 or 2500 BC 2400 2000 BC how is it 2294 01:54:48,270 --> 01:54:43,080 possible to carve such precise 2295 01:54:50,250 --> 01:54:48,280 inscriptions into those granite stiii it 2296 01:54:52,650 --> 01:54:50,260 wasn't done with copper it wasn't done 2297 01:54:54,570 --> 01:54:52,660 oh no no this is a real problem 2298 01:54:58,140 --> 01:54:54,580 how were they carving these things on 2299 01:54:59,790 --> 01:54:58,150 some of the sarcophagi and hopefully 2300 01:55:02,010 --> 01:54:59,800 they're still on display I'll show it to 2301 01:55:04,979 --> 01:55:02,020 everyone when we go there you can 2302 01:55:09,090 --> 01:55:04,989 actually see saw marks so they were 2303 01:55:12,060 --> 01:55:09,100 sawing granite and which is you know 2304 01:55:13,950 --> 01:55:12,070 really incredible then there's other 2305 01:55:17,370 --> 01:55:13,960 granite where you know it has this 2306 01:55:19,620 --> 01:55:17,380 incredibly beautiful polish and Sheen to 2307 01:55:23,370 --> 01:55:19,630 it so somehow they were working it that 2308 01:55:24,690 --> 01:55:23,380 way you have inscriptions on some of 2309 01:55:26,910 --> 01:55:24,700 them which are at 2310 01:55:28,950 --> 01:55:26,920 absolutely gorgeous and beautiful as you 2311 01:55:31,470 --> 01:55:28,960 say and you have to ask how did they 2312 01:55:34,500 --> 01:55:31,480 carve them how did they get such 2313 01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:34,510 beautiful hieroglyphics and what not 2314 01:55:40,950 --> 01:55:37,090 then you have other sarcophagi and I 2315 01:55:43,740 --> 01:55:40,960 think of one that I show people and it 2316 01:55:46,010 --> 01:55:43,750 seems quite evident that the inscription 2317 01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:46,020 on it which is a genuine ancient 2318 01:55:52,020 --> 01:55:48,850 inscription I have no doubt is much 2319 01:55:54,510 --> 01:55:52,030 later than the than what it's being 2320 01:55:56,550 --> 01:55:54,520 scribed on so again this ties in with 2321 01:55:59,220 --> 01:55:56,560 what I was talking about before where 2322 01:56:01,200 --> 01:55:59,230 they were reusing things so in some 2323 01:56:05,490 --> 01:56:01,210 cases they've got much something much 2324 01:56:07,620 --> 01:56:05,500 older and they're reusing it four 2325 01:56:10,020 --> 01:56:07,630 thousand years ago or three thousand 2326 01:56:12,390 --> 01:56:10,030 years ago so you have to be careful 2327 01:56:15,210 --> 01:56:12,400 sometimes because especially at saqqara 2328 01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:15,220 I believe there's a lot of evidence that 2329 01:56:21,330 --> 01:56:18,130 you have much much much older structures 2330 01:56:24,780 --> 01:56:21,340 and much much much older antiques 2331 01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:24,790 more less things that were ancient to 2332 01:56:31,350 --> 01:56:28,810 the dynastic Egyptians four thousand 2333 01:56:33,540 --> 01:56:31,360 five hundred four thousand seven hundred 2334 01:56:36,740 --> 01:56:33,550 years ago let's take a break right here 2335 01:56:40,230 --> 01:56:36,750 dr. Schaack and when we come back let's 2336 01:56:43,530 --> 01:56:40,240 what's next on our list of oh the 2337 01:56:44,490 --> 01:56:43,540 sarcophagus in Alexandria will do spice 2338 01:56:47,820 --> 01:56:44,500 right in 2339 01:56:50,250 --> 01:56:47,830 nice segue there dr. well done 2340 01:56:52,740 --> 01:56:50,260 our guest tonight dr. 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Robert M shock 2431 02:01:27,460 --> 02:01:24,980 segment of fade to black have probably 2432 02:01:30,330 --> 02:01:27,470 brought you by bearing objects that's 2433 02:01:32,590 --> 02:01:30,340 right that's what I use night-vision 2434 02:01:34,150 --> 02:01:32,600 goggles you can go and click on the 2435 02:01:37,630 --> 02:01:34,160 banners right now we just got back from 2436 02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:37,640 II said II and nothing like having night 2437 02:01:43,390 --> 02:01:40,970 vision and watching all of our friends 2438 02:01:45,490 --> 02:01:43,400 up there it's a pretty Mason contact 2439 02:01:48,400 --> 02:01:45,500 Alec Hoffman and the information is 2440 02:01:50,830 --> 02:01:48,410 right there to mature ATO calm dr. 2441 02:01:53,350 --> 02:01:50,840 Schaack have you speaking of that have 2442 02:01:55,780 --> 02:01:53,360 you ever looked up to the skies with 2443 02:02:07,180 --> 02:01:55,790 night-vision goggles and and tried to 2444 02:02:09,280 --> 02:02:07,190 see something to do that you've you've 2445 02:02:12,850 --> 02:02:09,290 seen all of the you know and heard the 2446 02:02:17,020 --> 02:02:12,860 reports of it yeah it's a life-changing 2447 02:02:19,390 --> 02:02:17,030 experience the first time you're invited 2448 02:02:22,360 --> 02:02:19,400 next time you and I get together we're 2449 02:02:25,090 --> 02:02:22,370 going out we're going out you Katie and 2450 02:02:28,860 --> 02:02:25,100 Rita you know how long it takes you to 2451 02:02:32,800 --> 02:02:28,870 see something strange five probably not 2452 02:02:34,870 --> 02:02:32,810 five seconds and it's a guaranteed to 2453 02:02:37,480 --> 02:02:34,880 it's just them look forward to it that 2454 02:02:40,780 --> 02:02:37,490 sounds fun yeah you've got to do with us 2455 02:02:43,600 --> 02:02:40,790 and I definitely will we will so this 2456 02:02:45,820 --> 02:02:43,610 the sarcophagus that was found in 2457 02:02:48,070 --> 02:02:45,830 Alexandria going back to what we were 2458 02:02:48,670 --> 02:02:48,080 talking about the weight the size of 2459 02:02:52,360 --> 02:02:48,680 these things 2460 02:02:57,880 --> 02:02:52,370 oh yeah that was a the estimate was 2461 02:03:00,630 --> 02:02:57,890 about 27 to 30 tons is that that that's 2462 02:03:02,650 --> 02:03:00,640 not a minor thing and this was not a 2463 02:03:05,790 --> 02:03:02,660 when it comes right down to it 2464 02:03:07,870 --> 02:03:05,800 particularly large sarcophagus by 2465 02:03:12,160 --> 02:03:07,880 Egyptian standards that we were talking 2466 02:03:14,560 --> 02:03:12,170 about was a few meters long and you know 2467 02:03:18,400 --> 02:03:14,570 a couple meters tall and you know say 6 2468 02:03:21,610 --> 02:03:18,410 feet tall 9 feet or so long 9 to 10 feet 2469 02:03:24,640 --> 02:03:21,620 long and you know when you're talking in 2470 02:03:26,710 --> 02:03:24,650 a solid granite sarcophagus twice a 2471 02:03:28,649 --> 02:03:26,720 solid you know made out of granite with 2472 02:03:32,850 --> 02:03:28,659 very very thick 2473 02:03:37,290 --> 02:03:32,860 walls on it this is not a minor thing no 2474 02:03:40,879 --> 02:03:37,300 and and what was fascinating for me was 2475 02:03:44,040 --> 02:03:40,889 watching the video of them struggling 2476 02:03:47,010 --> 02:03:44,050 well yeah all of the modern technology 2477 02:03:50,250 --> 02:03:47,020 that we have struggling with this thing 2478 02:03:52,830 --> 02:03:50,260 and and what they had to do to to get 2479 02:03:55,290 --> 02:03:52,840 the top of it off into clear now and to 2480 02:03:57,870 --> 02:03:55,300 think about you know go back to 300 BC 2481 02:03:59,270 --> 02:03:57,880 and apparently they're moving these 2482 02:04:01,740 --> 02:03:59,280 things around like they were nothing 2483 02:04:03,689 --> 02:04:01,750 yeah exactly that's the thing how are 2484 02:04:07,770 --> 02:04:03,699 they doing it back then we have such a 2485 02:04:09,810 --> 02:04:07,780 hard time with it now and that's 300 BC 2486 02:04:13,550 --> 02:04:09,820 and when you go back further in time 2487 02:04:16,709 --> 02:04:13,560 this is one of the classic aspects of 2488 02:04:18,360 --> 02:04:16,719 Egypt which you know the classic 2489 02:04:21,090 --> 02:04:18,370 Egyptologists don't have a good 2490 02:04:23,820 --> 02:04:21,100 explanation for as you go further back 2491 02:04:28,820 --> 02:04:23,830 in time things tend to get larger they 2492 02:04:31,770 --> 02:04:28,830 tend to become even more technologically 2493 02:04:33,570 --> 02:04:31,780 difficult should we say and you would 2494 02:04:35,669 --> 02:04:33,580 normally expect things to go the other 2495 02:04:38,790 --> 02:04:35,679 way that starts out primitive and then 2496 02:04:41,250 --> 02:04:38,800 gets larger more sophisticated we have 2497 02:04:46,500 --> 02:04:41,260 the opposite in Egypt so really we're 2498 02:04:49,830 --> 02:04:46,510 looking at 300 or Ptolemaic period the 2499 02:04:51,930 --> 02:04:49,840 end of what we think of is Egyptian 2500 02:04:54,419 --> 02:04:51,940 civilization not the beginning with that 2501 02:04:58,560 --> 02:04:54,429 sarcophagus in Alexandria and still 2502 02:05:01,860 --> 02:04:58,570 absolutely amazing how much how much 2503 02:05:03,959 --> 02:05:01,870 have we actually discovered and I know 2504 02:05:09,180 --> 02:05:03,969 you've contemplated this you know in 2505 02:05:12,450 --> 02:05:09,190 Egypt yeah okay yeah I'll put a maybe 2506 02:05:16,620 --> 02:05:12,460 five to ten percent right liberally 2507 02:05:18,689 --> 02:05:16,630 maybe there's a lot to discover in Egypt 2508 02:05:21,030 --> 02:05:18,699 and there's a couple of issues when it 2509 02:05:22,680 --> 02:05:21,040 comes to that and I'm a geologists 2510 02:05:25,770 --> 02:05:22,690 geophysicists 2511 02:05:28,020 --> 02:05:25,780 so there's a lot of innocent may sound 2512 02:05:30,629 --> 02:05:28,030 crude and trite but there's a lot of 2513 02:05:34,070 --> 02:05:30,639 sand there there's a lot of soup Nile 2514 02:05:37,560 --> 02:05:34,080 there which has covered things up and 2515 02:05:40,770 --> 02:05:37,570 yet even though so much has been buried 2516 02:05:42,060 --> 02:05:40,780 and covered up and we know that when I 2517 02:05:43,919 --> 02:05:42,070 say we know that 2518 02:05:46,260 --> 02:05:43,929 because wherever you dig in Egypt you're 2519 02:05:49,410 --> 02:05:46,270 going to find something it seems where 2520 02:05:52,410 --> 02:05:49,420 ever you do geophysics you start picking 2521 02:05:55,470 --> 02:05:52,420 up things now with Google and satellite 2522 02:05:58,350 --> 02:05:55,480 imagery and that those types of 2523 02:06:00,510 --> 02:05:58,360 techniques remote sensing we can pick up 2524 02:06:02,459 --> 02:06:00,520 more and more things I do want to stress 2525 02:06:04,169 --> 02:06:02,469 though because I get all people sending 2526 02:06:06,450 --> 02:06:04,179 me stuff all the time they'll here's 2527 02:06:08,970 --> 02:06:06,460 this and that and everything you always 2528 02:06:10,649 --> 02:06:08,980 have to ground check so you really you 2529 02:06:12,930 --> 02:06:10,659 know things can be misleading from 2530 02:06:16,649 --> 02:06:12,940 satellite photographs but there's a lot 2531 02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:16,659 there to find but the second aspect is 2532 02:06:21,149 --> 02:06:18,010 not just as they're a lot they're 2533 02:06:24,479 --> 02:06:21,159 defined in Egypt there's so much on the 2534 02:06:27,080 --> 02:06:24,489 surface already that it's overwhelming 2535 02:06:29,129 --> 02:06:27,090 and then it's been overwhelming for 2536 02:06:31,709 --> 02:06:29,139 Egyptologist for the last couple of 2537 02:06:35,359 --> 02:06:31,719 centuries so most Egyptologists they 2538 02:06:37,830 --> 02:06:35,369 specialize in one small field bit a 2539 02:06:40,740 --> 02:06:37,840 geographic field or a certain time 2540 02:06:44,490 --> 02:06:40,750 period etc and there's so much on the 2541 02:06:47,040 --> 02:06:44,500 surface for them to study that that's a 2542 02:06:50,189 --> 02:06:47,050 lifetime of work to begin with much less 2543 02:06:52,459 --> 02:06:50,199 to discover something new they the 2544 02:06:54,959 --> 02:06:52,469 Egyptian government some cases basically 2545 02:06:56,550 --> 02:06:54,969 discourages people from discovering new 2546 02:06:59,939 --> 02:06:56,560 things because they can't deal with what 2547 02:07:01,439 --> 02:06:59,949 they've got already what's stopping you 2548 02:07:04,200 --> 02:07:01,449 know there's ground-penetrating radar 2549 02:07:07,490 --> 02:07:04,210 you have lidar and other things that 2550 02:07:11,609 --> 02:07:07,500 could be yeah applied with aircraft and 2551 02:07:14,939 --> 02:07:11,619 but in this mulan project what is what 2552 02:07:17,600 --> 02:07:14,949 is just stopping a massive Giza Plateau 2553 02:07:19,859 --> 02:07:17,610 all the way to Saqqara right and just 2554 02:07:22,080 --> 02:07:19,869 finding out what's underneath the sand 2555 02:07:24,149 --> 02:07:22,090 we have the technology why I would say 2556 02:07:26,310 --> 02:07:24,159 there's two things one you've got the 2557 02:07:29,520 --> 02:07:26,320 Egyptian authorities and they have to 2558 02:07:31,800 --> 02:07:29,530 approve anything and ultimately it 2559 02:07:35,399 --> 02:07:31,810 becomes a military issue in some cases 2560 02:07:38,970 --> 02:07:35,409 because you know they're sensitive about 2561 02:07:41,149 --> 02:07:38,980 things and there's military aspects too 2562 02:07:44,339 --> 02:07:41,159 I mean I'm being very pragmatic here 2563 02:07:48,899 --> 02:07:44,349 right by Giza there is a military base 2564 02:07:51,540 --> 02:07:48,909 etc etc yeah so there's other issues 2565 02:07:53,760 --> 02:07:51,550 involved besides Antiquities that's 2566 02:07:54,790 --> 02:07:53,770 number one number two its money any of 2567 02:07:57,010 --> 02:07:54,800 these techniques 2568 02:08:00,100 --> 02:07:57,020 cost a lot of money to do them right you 2569 02:08:02,320 --> 02:08:00,110 need to get the equipment out there you 2570 02:08:07,660 --> 02:08:02,330 need to have all the proper specialized 2571 02:08:10,690 --> 02:08:07,670 technicians for the equipment you know 2572 02:08:13,690 --> 02:08:10,700 it would take me forever just to run one 2573 02:08:17,440 --> 02:08:13,700 operate one piece of equipment you need 2574 02:08:19,860 --> 02:08:17,450 a massive number of people to do that 2575 02:08:23,110 --> 02:08:19,870 then you need a lot of processing power 2576 02:08:25,630 --> 02:08:23,120 with supercomputers for some of this 2577 02:08:28,120 --> 02:08:25,640 because you get so much data coming in 2578 02:08:30,520 --> 02:08:28,130 that's something that is a big factor 2579 02:08:34,420 --> 02:08:30,530 for instance for instance with the scan 2580 02:08:36,670 --> 02:08:34,430 pyramids mulan project it's not just 2581 02:08:38,620 --> 02:08:36,680 collecting the data but it's processing 2582 02:08:42,130 --> 02:08:38,630 the data which is very very expensive 2583 02:08:44,950 --> 02:08:42,140 and time-consuming building equipment in 2584 02:08:47,290 --> 02:08:44,960 some cases just to process that data and 2585 02:08:49,930 --> 02:08:47,300 make sense out of it so there's a lot of 2586 02:08:51,760 --> 02:08:49,940 practical aspects but no it could be 2587 02:08:53,980 --> 02:08:51,770 done it could absolutely be done and 2588 02:08:56,470 --> 02:08:53,990 it's it's amazing to me you know people 2589 02:08:59,230 --> 02:08:56,480 dump money into all kinds of frivolous 2590 02:09:00,910 --> 02:08:59,240 things when I say dump money you know 2591 02:09:03,280 --> 02:09:00,920 people put millions of dollars into 2592 02:09:06,280 --> 02:09:03,290 other things I think here we have a 2593 02:09:08,860 --> 02:09:06,290 situation where we could learn so much 2594 02:09:11,260 --> 02:09:08,870 and so much not just for its own sake 2595 02:09:14,110 --> 02:09:11,270 because the Incheon Egypt and antiquity 2596 02:09:15,880 --> 02:09:14,120 is important and interesting but because 2597 02:09:18,850 --> 02:09:15,890 I think we could learn things that could 2598 02:09:21,070 --> 02:09:18,860 apply to the present day well when we 2599 02:09:23,050 --> 02:09:21,080 look at what and I was so fascinated 2600 02:09:26,230 --> 02:09:23,060 with the mapping that was done over 2601 02:09:28,450 --> 02:09:26,240 Guatemala and the Honduras and and all 2602 02:09:31,060 --> 02:09:28,460 of the structures that were found and 2603 02:09:33,580 --> 02:09:31,070 the highway systems that worried under 2604 02:09:37,030 --> 02:09:33,590 the jungle canopy there we had no idea 2605 02:09:40,090 --> 02:09:37,040 right no no no we had no idea but that 2606 02:09:42,610 --> 02:09:40,100 is a different thing to penetrate versus 2607 02:09:45,670 --> 02:09:42,620 sand well right there there's different 2608 02:09:47,380 --> 02:09:45,680 issues involved and sometimes jungle 2609 02:09:49,300 --> 02:09:47,390 campy I'm not trying to make excuses for 2610 02:09:52,060 --> 02:09:49,310 Egypt but it's sometimes easier to 2611 02:09:53,680 --> 02:09:52,070 penetrate that then you have then sand 2612 02:09:56,200 --> 02:09:53,690 and of course you're in a different 2613 02:09:57,970 --> 02:09:56,210 situation I mean you can't just put 2614 02:10:01,030 --> 02:09:57,980 things into Egyptian airspace without 2615 02:10:02,079 --> 02:10:01,040 get all the proper permissions right but 2616 02:10:05,409 --> 02:10:02,089 the the the 2617 02:10:08,109 --> 02:10:05,419 the mentality behind it as well you know 2618 02:10:10,209 --> 02:10:08,119 I'm seeing there's also a mentality and 2619 02:10:13,559 --> 02:10:10,219 I've known many Egyptians with all due 2620 02:10:17,259 --> 02:10:13,569 respect who really don't care much about 2621 02:10:19,270 --> 02:10:17,269 dynastic Egypt because it I think we may 2622 02:10:22,290 --> 02:10:19,280 have talked about this before if it's 2623 02:10:26,079 --> 02:10:22,300 pre Muslim for some Egyptians it's not a 2624 02:10:28,569 --> 02:10:26,089 high priority should we say wow so you 2625 02:10:30,159 --> 02:10:28,579 tell you get you know there's religious 2626 02:10:33,879 --> 02:10:30,169 aspects to it what we have in this 2627 02:10:36,549 --> 02:10:33,889 country also right now people couldn't 2628 02:10:40,479 --> 02:10:36,559 care less about Native American burial 2629 02:10:42,369 --> 02:10:40,489 mounds etc is that reason enough well 2630 02:10:48,089 --> 02:10:42,379 here's the million-dollar question and 2631 02:10:51,250 --> 02:10:48,099 it really comes down to this I feel that 2632 02:10:53,949 --> 02:10:51,260 information is being suppressed I'm just 2633 02:10:58,359 --> 02:10:53,959 being very straightforward here the 2634 02:11:00,609 --> 02:10:58,369 question is why suppress the knowledge 2635 02:11:03,279 --> 02:11:00,619 we know we know that they're holding 2636 02:11:05,020 --> 02:11:03,289 back a word that they don't want to go 2637 02:11:07,629 --> 02:11:05,030 and find out things 2638 02:11:08,649 --> 02:11:07,639 why suppress it I that that's the 2639 02:11:12,250 --> 02:11:08,659 question 2640 02:11:14,919 --> 02:11:12,260 politics and religion that's it that's 2641 02:11:17,049 --> 02:11:14,929 simple I think it's that simple of some 2642 02:11:19,809 --> 02:11:17,059 case I think it's politics religion and 2643 02:11:22,750 --> 02:11:19,819 vested interests when I say vested 2644 02:11:25,809 --> 02:11:22,760 interests I mean how many and I don't 2645 02:11:27,549 --> 02:11:25,819 want to sound well i that really don't 2646 02:11:29,409 --> 02:11:27,559 want to sound the wrong way but I 2647 02:11:31,149 --> 02:11:29,419 certainly know in many fields of 2648 02:11:34,540 --> 02:11:31,159 academia that people have vested 2649 02:11:36,879 --> 02:11:34,550 interest that you know if they've built 2650 02:11:38,679 --> 02:11:36,889 their career on one thing they don't 2651 02:11:40,599 --> 02:11:38,689 want to be told they were wrong they 2652 02:11:44,589 --> 02:11:40,609 don't want to have to rewrite their own 2653 02:11:48,009 --> 02:11:44,599 books or rethink their own doctrines 2654 02:11:51,279 --> 02:11:48,019 their own hypotheses etc so you have it 2655 02:11:53,529 --> 02:11:51,289 at that level you have strong religious 2656 02:11:57,159 --> 02:11:53,539 interest in some cases I have been 2657 02:11:59,109 --> 02:11:57,169 attacked by both Christians and Muslims 2658 02:12:02,020 --> 02:11:59,119 you know not physically attacked but 2659 02:12:04,329 --> 02:12:02,030 verbally attacked for pushing 2660 02:12:07,719 --> 02:12:04,339 civilization back for pushing back the 2661 02:12:09,579 --> 02:12:07,729 age of the Sphinx people who tell me oh 2662 02:12:11,739 --> 02:12:09,589 you know I'm saying the Sphinx is older 2663 02:12:15,399 --> 02:12:11,749 than the world is that's the extreme but 2664 02:12:15,970 --> 02:12:15,409 you know that lot of people are very 2665 02:12:20,080 --> 02:12:15,980 strong 2666 02:12:23,200 --> 02:12:20,090 feelings about things well we have you 2667 02:12:24,300 --> 02:12:23,210 know gobekli tepe let's just call it 2668 02:12:26,860 --> 02:12:24,310 like it is 2669 02:12:29,290 --> 02:12:26,870 gobekli tepe wasn't supposed to exist 2670 02:12:31,210 --> 02:12:29,300 and although I wasn't supposed to exist 2671 02:12:37,000 --> 02:12:31,220 and this links wasn't supposed to have 2672 02:12:39,670 --> 02:12:37,010 any incarnation any any existence in any 2673 02:12:41,530 --> 02:12:39,680 form whatsoever because just to make 2674 02:12:43,570 --> 02:12:41,540 clear for the audience who hasn't heard 2675 02:12:45,850 --> 02:12:43,580 this before I pushed the day of the 2676 02:12:48,670 --> 02:12:45,860 Sphinx back much earlier back to about 2677 02:12:51,340 --> 02:12:48,680 10,000 BC but it wasn't the Sphinx that 2678 02:12:54,910 --> 02:12:51,350 we see today was not the dynastic head 2679 02:12:56,890 --> 02:12:54,920 we see it was actually a lioness and the 2680 02:13:00,240 --> 02:12:56,900 head has been recarved so it didn't look 2681 02:13:03,040 --> 02:13:00,250 the way it does today but that was 2682 02:13:07,510 --> 02:13:03,050 incredible 2683 02:13:10,390 --> 02:13:07,520 I mean heresy in academic circles people 2684 02:13:13,870 --> 02:13:10,400 tried to have me fired etc etc and 2685 02:13:16,240 --> 02:13:13,880 gobekli tepe which was found a number of 2686 02:13:18,640 --> 02:13:16,250 years later and excavate even later and 2687 02:13:21,580 --> 02:13:18,650 really came on the scene is the same 2688 02:13:25,510 --> 02:13:21,590 period and equally sophisticated and 2689 02:13:29,410 --> 02:13:25,520 goes back to that same period and is 2690 02:13:31,660 --> 02:13:29,420 absolutely evidence in my opinion that 2691 02:13:34,510 --> 02:13:31,670 what I've been talking about long before 2692 02:13:36,580 --> 02:13:34,520 it was discovered is true it's it's 2693 02:13:37,930 --> 02:13:36,590 cooperating evidence it's confirming 2694 02:13:41,560 --> 02:13:37,940 what I've been saying 2695 02:13:43,420 --> 02:13:41,570 well Lerner said at the big conference 2696 02:13:45,910 --> 02:13:43,430 he said you know give me evidence of 2697 02:13:49,870 --> 02:13:45,920 another civilization pushing things back 2698 02:13:52,390 --> 02:13:49,880 to 10,000 BC and then you know well had 2699 02:13:55,990 --> 02:13:52,400 gobekli tepe been around and discovered 2700 02:13:58,690 --> 02:13:56,000 in 1990-1991 your position would have 2701 02:14:00,610 --> 02:13:58,700 been completely different completely 2702 02:14:03,130 --> 02:14:00,620 different and I wouldn't have suffered 2703 02:14:06,250 --> 02:14:03,140 all the abuse I had I suffered at the 2704 02:14:08,140 --> 02:14:06,260 time and now look at what happens part 2705 02:14:11,050 --> 02:14:08,150 of the answer to the question you just 2706 02:14:13,450 --> 02:14:11,060 posed even though we now have gobekli 2707 02:14:15,880 --> 02:14:13,460 tepe have some of those people change 2708 02:14:18,790 --> 02:14:15,890 their position not significantly they 2709 02:14:20,740 --> 02:14:18,800 were served brush Quebec Lea Tempe under 2710 02:14:23,820 --> 02:14:20,750 the rug and still say well that doesn't 2711 02:14:25,150 --> 02:14:23,830 apply somehow oh it's not really that 2712 02:14:27,010 --> 02:14:25,160 sophisticated 2713 02:14:29,620 --> 02:14:27,020 you know they can't dismiss it but they 2714 02:14:32,350 --> 02:14:29,630 can try to ignore it so Hawass 2715 02:14:34,750 --> 02:14:32,360 literally has said that he doesn't know 2716 02:14:36,100 --> 02:14:34,760 anything about Quebec Lee tech based so 2717 02:14:37,810 --> 02:14:36,110 if he doesn't know about it 2718 02:14:39,430 --> 02:14:37,820 apparently it doesn't count as evidence 2719 02:14:42,250 --> 02:14:39,440 I can't believe it 2720 02:14:44,860 --> 02:14:42,260 and that's on video I can't have yeah 2721 02:14:47,979 --> 02:14:44,870 these words came out of his mouth like I 2722 02:14:50,590 --> 02:14:47,989 know I mean this is the level that we're 2723 02:14:52,090 --> 02:14:50,600 talking about I mean this is the level 2724 02:14:54,129 --> 02:14:52,100 of people we're talking about in some 2725 02:14:56,530 --> 02:14:54,139 cases and I sound like I'm being very 2726 02:14:58,360 --> 02:14:56,540 harsh I guess I am but you have to say 2727 02:15:03,399 --> 02:14:58,370 it the way it is I mean it's ridiculous 2728 02:15:05,590 --> 02:15:03,409 I don't get into politics I was going to 2729 02:15:09,850 --> 02:15:05,600 say say certain people have been 2730 02:15:17,310 --> 02:15:09,860 inventing their own quote truth unquote 2731 02:15:21,060 --> 02:15:17,320 long before Trump my guess oh okay and 2732 02:15:25,840 --> 02:15:21,070 send all of your email to Robert Schoch 2733 02:15:28,360 --> 02:15:25,850 okay but but this is I think you know 2734 02:15:31,330 --> 02:15:28,370 what I'm saying I do I do I tell you 2735 02:15:34,660 --> 02:15:31,340 just I mean sometimes people just make 2736 02:15:40,300 --> 02:15:34,670 up things well the bigger picture is is 2737 02:15:44,169 --> 02:15:40,310 quite simply this that if if evidence 2738 02:15:48,129 --> 02:15:44,179 was revealed of a prior society and 2739 02:15:51,939 --> 02:15:48,139 civilization high technical civilization 2740 02:15:54,729 --> 02:15:51,949 before 3,000 BC then that changes 2741 02:15:57,220 --> 02:15:54,739 everything that changes the Bible that 2742 02:15:58,840 --> 02:15:57,230 changes religious aspects that changes 2743 02:16:01,300 --> 02:15:58,850 every book that has ever been written 2744 02:16:03,850 --> 02:16:01,310 all of the curriculum being taught in 2745 02:16:06,640 --> 02:16:03,860 schools and geopolitics and everything 2746 02:16:09,820 --> 02:16:06,650 else has to change and the earth would 2747 02:16:13,060 --> 02:16:09,830 shift on its axis it would be that 2748 02:16:17,709 --> 02:16:13,070 monumental and quite possibly that is 2749 02:16:19,750 --> 02:16:17,719 the big issue here exactly exactly I 2750 02:16:22,950 --> 02:16:19,760 mean you know it really changes how 2751 02:16:26,500 --> 02:16:22,960 people have to view things everything 2752 02:16:31,030 --> 02:16:26,510 everything everything the yeah the 2753 02:16:33,700 --> 02:16:31,040 implications the input of mind boggling 2754 02:16:35,980 --> 02:16:33,710 I think that that's why people are so 2755 02:16:38,200 --> 02:16:35,990 resistant and that's why they want to 2756 02:16:40,750 --> 02:16:38,210 ignore evidence they were ignored data 2757 02:16:42,980 --> 02:16:40,760 they don't want except that they want 2758 02:16:46,180 --> 02:16:42,990 keep their old rude 2759 02:16:49,820 --> 02:16:46,190 they wanna keep their old world view and 2760 02:16:52,910 --> 02:16:49,830 you can't do it and be compatible with 2761 02:16:55,820 --> 02:16:52,920 the real evidence and let's go let's go 2762 02:16:57,800 --> 02:16:55,830 back in its totality with everything 2763 02:17:00,800 --> 02:16:57,810 that we have discussed tonight 2764 02:17:02,990 --> 02:17:00,810 mommies we talk about the Moulin project 2765 02:17:06,890 --> 02:17:03,000 in the electromagnetic research and 2766 02:17:08,780 --> 02:17:06,900 which goes right into in my opinion the 2767 02:17:11,300 --> 02:17:08,790 electric universe and I'm glad that you 2768 02:17:15,490 --> 02:17:11,310 brought that up all of this now was 2769 02:17:18,680 --> 02:17:15,500 starting to collide science is is 2770 02:17:21,980 --> 02:17:18,690 overlapping our community so much these 2771 02:17:26,200 --> 02:17:21,990 days that something is gonna break here 2772 02:17:29,300 --> 02:17:26,210 Robert something is gonna bust wide open 2773 02:17:33,020 --> 02:17:29,310 yeah I think so events I think so I 2774 02:17:34,490 --> 02:17:33,030 think we're going to how do I say this 2775 02:17:38,510 --> 02:17:34,500 we're going through a paradigm change 2776 02:17:42,230 --> 02:17:38,520 we're going through I don't know if you 2777 02:17:45,860 --> 02:17:42,240 know Thomas Kuhn the great physicists 2778 02:17:48,530 --> 02:17:45,870 historian who talked about revolutions 2779 02:17:50,870 --> 02:17:48,540 in science we I think we're saying that 2780 02:17:53,570 --> 02:17:50,880 we're we're just gonna have to give up 2781 02:17:57,110 --> 02:17:53,580 the old paradigm and go into a new one 2782 02:17:59,750 --> 02:17:57,120 the when we talk about all of this and 2783 02:18:01,940 --> 02:17:59,760 then we bring in there's another there's 2784 02:18:05,540 --> 02:18:01,950 another key here and I'm talking about 2785 02:18:10,760 --> 02:18:05,550 Edie Phu and what is represented there 2786 02:18:13,940 --> 02:18:10,770 and that story also corroborates other 2787 02:18:16,910 --> 02:18:13,950 historians from the past some of the 2788 02:18:21,580 --> 02:18:16,920 theories of today and it brings in the 2789 02:18:24,410 --> 02:18:21,590 big a word I knew you were going well I 2790 02:18:26,780 --> 02:18:24,420 mean you know and and I will say the 2791 02:18:29,870 --> 02:18:26,790 a-word now I wouldn't say it 30 years 2792 02:18:32,090 --> 02:18:29,880 ago I suppose why not suppose I know I 2793 02:18:35,270 --> 02:18:32,100 wouldn't say 30 years ago out in public 2794 02:18:37,880 --> 02:18:35,280 because again this was something that if 2795 02:18:41,300 --> 02:18:37,890 you start talking about Lantis Atlantis 2796 02:18:44,510 --> 02:18:41,310 being the a word in this context you 2797 02:18:48,320 --> 02:18:44,520 were dismissed by standard academia but 2798 02:18:51,200 --> 02:18:48,330 to me the concept of Atlantis not as a 2799 02:18:54,380 --> 02:18:51,210 geographic location not as a geographic 2800 02:18:56,769 --> 02:18:54,390 position but the concept of Atlantis as 2801 02:19:00,919 --> 02:18:56,779 a as an advanced civilization 2802 02:19:04,429 --> 02:19:00,929 that goes back to the period of about 2803 02:19:07,879 --> 02:19:04,439 10,000 BC Plato according to Plato's 2804 02:19:09,979 --> 02:19:07,889 chronology it collapsed about 9600 BC 2805 02:19:13,189 --> 02:19:09,989 which is right at the end of the last 2806 02:19:17,599 --> 02:19:13,199 ice age by modern dating it ties in 2807 02:19:19,939 --> 02:19:17,609 perfectly with what we now know from 2808 02:19:23,179 --> 02:19:19,949 genuine archaeological and geological 2809 02:19:25,969 --> 02:19:23,189 evidence so I think we have to relook at 2810 02:19:28,969 --> 02:19:25,979 that and I don't care if you know my son 2811 02:19:31,339 --> 02:19:28,979 my academic colleagues find that crazy 2812 02:19:33,889 --> 02:19:31,349 that's where the evidence is going well 2813 02:19:36,679 --> 02:19:33,899 and when we talk about the possibility 2814 02:19:37,939 --> 02:19:36,689 of great floods or catastrophes and 2815 02:19:39,979 --> 02:19:37,949 these things around the world and 2816 02:19:42,139 --> 02:19:39,989 everybody has got a flood myth every 2817 02:19:45,049 --> 02:19:42,149 culture doesn't matter where you go 2818 02:19:47,750 --> 02:19:45,059 everybody's got a flood myth story and 2819 02:19:50,420 --> 02:19:47,760 when we back up off of the last ice age 2820 02:19:53,840 --> 02:19:50,430 when everything started to melt and sea 2821 02:19:56,120 --> 02:19:53,850 levels rose there's the the possibility 2822 02:19:59,990 --> 02:19:56,130 of each one of these cultures around the 2823 02:20:02,179 --> 02:20:00,000 world experiencing their own flood story 2824 02:20:06,580 --> 02:20:02,189 and that's where it all comes from but 2825 02:20:11,719 --> 02:20:06,590 yeah with the talk of Atlantis predated 2826 02:20:14,840 --> 02:20:11,729 the Edfu discovery and when you look at 2827 02:20:16,760 --> 02:20:14,850 those texts and now you put that in and 2828 02:20:19,550 --> 02:20:16,770 it's another piece of evidence here that 2829 02:20:23,360 --> 02:20:19,560 explains a lot not only the technology 2830 02:20:26,960 --> 02:20:23,370 of Egypt but some of these stories that 2831 02:20:31,360 --> 02:20:26,970 go back around around the world with all 2832 02:20:35,750 --> 02:20:31,370 of these cultures and to me it starts to 2833 02:20:38,599 --> 02:20:35,760 complete the puzzle right there edu and 2834 02:20:40,670 --> 02:20:38,609 its image stand is dismissed and I don't 2835 02:20:42,469 --> 02:20:40,680 yeah no no and Ed who is incredible it's 2836 02:20:45,590 --> 02:20:42,479 it's essentially sort of one of the 2837 02:20:49,250 --> 02:20:45,600 places that we go and visit and it's a 2838 02:20:51,469 --> 02:20:49,260 it's essentially a book in stone as it's 2839 02:20:54,740 --> 02:20:51,479 sometimes described all over the temple 2840 02:20:57,410 --> 02:20:54,750 and it talks about this and you know 2841 02:21:00,050 --> 02:20:57,420 again the problem is that so many 2842 02:21:02,920 --> 02:21:00,060 academics Egyptologist they just dismiss 2843 02:21:05,000 --> 02:21:02,930 this as nonsense you know they call myth 2844 02:21:07,700 --> 02:21:05,010 mythology or whatever and they just 2845 02:21:10,070 --> 02:21:07,710 dismiss it but we're finding there's a 2846 02:21:13,460 --> 02:21:10,080 real basis for it the 2847 02:21:15,770 --> 02:21:13,470 the evidence I want to close on this the 2848 02:21:19,430 --> 02:21:15,780 evidence when we look at the Great 2849 02:21:22,040 --> 02:21:19,440 Pyramid we can all make jokes that you 2850 02:21:25,400 --> 02:21:22,050 know Khufu Cheops didn't put his name on 2851 02:21:28,510 --> 02:21:25,410 the pyramid but there you know you be 2852 02:21:30,680 --> 02:21:28,520 the greatest monument the greatest 2853 02:21:32,690 --> 02:21:30,690 construction ever in the history of the 2854 02:21:34,820 --> 02:21:32,700 world but you don't put your name on it 2855 02:21:38,690 --> 02:21:34,830 I think yeah which was a little crazy 2856 02:21:41,240 --> 02:21:38,700 but there's a good argue well abroad he 2857 02:21:43,610 --> 02:21:41,250 was anonymous he wanted to stay and it's 2858 02:21:46,430 --> 02:21:43,620 also interesting that there's not much 2859 02:21:48,770 --> 02:21:46,440 in the way of not only are there no 2860 02:21:52,820 --> 02:21:48,780 inscriptions but there's not much in the 2861 02:21:55,820 --> 02:21:52,830 way of direct evidence in the sense of 2862 02:22:00,050 --> 02:21:55,830 statues of him or anything else 2863 02:22:02,870 --> 02:22:00,060 the only statuette that we now have is a 2864 02:22:05,180 --> 02:22:02,880 little ivory carving of him which you 2865 02:22:07,700 --> 02:22:05,190 can see at least it was on display in 2866 02:22:09,980 --> 02:22:07,710 the Egyptian Museum tiny little thing 2867 02:22:12,290 --> 02:22:09,990 and that's supposed to represent Khufu 2868 02:22:14,480 --> 02:22:12,300 and it's not even clear that that was 2869 02:22:17,540 --> 02:22:14,490 carved in his lifetime in fact it may 2870 02:22:20,090 --> 02:22:17,550 have been a thousand years later it may 2871 02:22:23,510 --> 02:22:20,100 just be a copy that were repeatedly on 2872 02:22:26,060 --> 02:22:23,520 the Sinai some carvings of him on some 2873 02:22:28,969 --> 02:22:26,070 of the walls but they were destroyed but 2874 02:22:29,570 --> 02:22:28,979 you know there's very little it's 2875 02:22:32,810 --> 02:22:29,580 strange 2876 02:22:36,580 --> 02:22:32,820 know it well and I can explain it you 2877 02:22:43,310 --> 02:22:36,590 ready okay yep pyramid was built before 2878 02:22:44,570 --> 02:22:43,320 hieroglyphics that's why they were use 2879 02:22:49,610 --> 02:22:44,580 it what they were using something more 2880 02:22:50,980 --> 02:22:49,620 sophisticated computers they need to 2881 02:22:54,050 --> 02:22:50,990 carve into the walls 2882 02:22:56,270 --> 02:22:54,060 yeah I'm joking a little bit about some 2883 02:22:59,930 --> 02:22:56,280 of this but no but maybe it's not a joke 2884 02:23:02,360 --> 02:22:59,940 we don't know I know you know how much 2885 02:23:04,700 --> 02:23:02,370 right now I don't know what the 2886 02:23:08,330 --> 02:23:04,710 percentage is how much is in print in 2887 02:23:12,620 --> 02:23:08,340 the last say five years versus just an 2888 02:23:16,370 --> 02:23:12,630 electronic digital format in cyberspace 2889 02:23:18,320 --> 02:23:16,380 I can't waste it my point I do I do 2890 02:23:23,450 --> 02:23:18,330 there is so much that doesn't actually 2891 02:23:23,901 --> 02:23:23,460 exist in print it's just it's cyberspace 2892 02:23:25,941 --> 02:23:23,911 it's 2893 02:23:28,941 --> 02:23:25,951 on the internet and if all that goes 2894 02:23:30,531 --> 02:23:28,951 down they'll be lost 2895 02:23:32,241 --> 02:23:30,541 well I think that's one reason I'd like 2896 02:23:34,701 --> 02:23:32,251 to have published books though you know 2897 02:23:37,941 --> 02:23:34,711 physical see physical paper copies 2898 02:23:40,761 --> 02:23:37,951 stored somewhere but so much you know 2899 02:23:43,071 --> 02:23:40,771 never exists on paper never exists 2900 02:23:46,281 --> 02:23:43,081 physically in our modern day and age 2901 02:23:49,341 --> 02:23:46,291 yeah when you think about it let's if 2902 02:23:53,301 --> 02:23:49,351 you jump ten thousand years into the 2903 02:23:58,731 --> 02:23:53,311 future and somebody from the future 2904 02:24:01,251 --> 02:23:58,741 finds a CD all right be worth working on 2905 02:24:03,231 --> 02:24:01,261 they would what how are they going to 2906 02:24:05,301 --> 02:24:03,241 figure that out or they're not going to 2907 02:24:08,481 --> 02:24:05,311 figure it out number one in number two 2908 02:24:10,131 --> 02:24:08,491 it will probably be so degraded that 2909 02:24:12,291 --> 02:24:10,141 even if they figure it out they'll get 2910 02:24:14,511 --> 02:24:12,301 very little information off of it that's 2911 02:24:19,071 --> 02:24:14,521 right and we have the same problems 2912 02:24:23,231 --> 02:24:19,081 today if if they found okay but CD is 2913 02:24:25,881 --> 02:24:23,241 one thing but how about a CD player 2914 02:24:29,361 --> 02:24:25,891 without a CD and they don't have the 2915 02:24:31,451 --> 02:24:29,371 instruction manual right what we have 2916 02:24:34,131 --> 02:24:31,461 the same problems with the Giza Plateau 2917 02:24:37,521 --> 02:24:34,141 we don't have those we don't have the 2918 02:24:40,161 --> 02:24:37,531 instruction man or a CD player or CD how 2919 02:24:44,211 --> 02:24:40,171 about a little thumb drive no this is in 2920 02:24:46,851 --> 02:24:44,221 your fingernail no and it could have all 2921 02:24:49,461 --> 02:24:46,861 of the information of our history but 2922 02:24:51,741 --> 02:24:49,471 they would never know it and we have the 2923 02:24:54,411 --> 02:24:51,751 same problems today with with Giza in 2924 02:24:55,191 --> 02:24:54,421 Egypt dr. Schaack thank you so much for 2925 02:24:58,401 --> 02:24:55,201 everything 2926 02:24:59,991 --> 02:24:58,411 what okay you've got the tour coming up 2927 02:25:05,051 --> 02:25:00,001 next year in 2019 2928 02:25:08,541 --> 02:25:05,061 what is thousand 19 June June 20 2929 02:25:10,041 --> 02:25:08,551 2019 I invite people to come see what 2930 02:25:13,491 --> 02:25:10,051 we've been talking about see it in 2931 02:25:17,511 --> 02:25:13,501 person I mean there's no substitute for 2932 02:25:20,271 --> 02:25:17,521 seeing in person and what's left for you 2933 02:25:22,941 --> 02:25:20,281 in 2018 are you speaking any appearances 2934 02:25:25,581 --> 02:25:22,951 yeah I've got some appearances that are 2935 02:25:26,991 --> 02:25:25,591 coming up every month I think September 2936 02:25:29,771 --> 02:25:27,001 October November 2937 02:25:34,071 --> 02:25:29,781 I suggest that people go to my website 2938 02:25:36,711 --> 02:25:34,081 Robert Schoch calm and for people that 2939 02:25:37,491 --> 02:25:36,721 don't know how spell my name it's Robert 2940 02:25:43,551 --> 02:25:37,501 the normal 2941 02:25:46,041 --> 02:25:43,561 our OB er T last name SCH o CH comm 2942 02:25:49,341 --> 02:25:46,051 thank you so much my friend give my best 2943 02:25:51,470 --> 02:25:49,351 to Katie thank you it's just another 2944 02:25:53,211 --> 02:25:51,480 wonderful conversation here I'm fade to 2945 02:25:55,131 --> 02:25:53,221 black with thee it's always great to be 2946 02:25:57,081 --> 02:25:55,141 on thank you so much 2947 02:26:03,201 --> 02:25:57,091 boys enjoy it enjoy the rest of your 2948 02:26:03,921 --> 02:26:03,211 morning I'll talk to you soon thank you 2949 02:26:08,631 --> 02:26:03,931 so much Robert 2950 02:26:12,501 --> 02:26:08,641 okay thank you Robert M shock its Robert 2951 02:26:14,331 --> 02:26:12,511 Schoch calm and you've got to go if if 2952 02:26:16,701 --> 02:26:14,341 you can you've got to go to Egypt with 2953 02:26:18,831 --> 02:26:16,711 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02:29:10,831 you know your hair was thicker you 3010 02:29:14,781 --> 02:29:12,990 didn't have so many wrinkles that extra 3011 02:29:17,150 --> 02:29:14,791 weight wasn't haunting you and you just 3012 02:29:19,520 --> 02:29:17,160 felt better well we can't turn back the 3013 02:29:22,100 --> 02:29:19,530 clocks and go back 10 or 15 years but 3014 02:29:25,071 --> 02:29:22,110 you can start feeling and looking 10 or 3015 02:29:27,020 --> 02:29:25,081 15 years younger with nature's youth RSF 3016 02:29:28,551 --> 02:29:27,030 it's a doctor formulated daily 3017 02:29:30,741 --> 02:29:28,561 supplement that helps your body maintain 3018 02:29:33,560 --> 02:29:30,751 its peak performance and fight the aging 3019 02:29:35,060 --> 02:29:33,570 process imagine sleeping better looking 3020 02:29:37,671 --> 02:29:35,070 better and feeling better 3021 02:29:39,621 --> 02:29:37,681 see how Nature's youth RSF has helped 3022 02:29:42,321 --> 02:29:39,631 thousands of people just like you at 3023 02:29:44,810 --> 02:29:42,331 nature's use calm nature's youth calm 3024 02:29:46,190 --> 02:29:44,820 the holidays are coming imagine how it 3025 02:29:48,111 --> 02:29:46,200 will feel when your family and friends 3026 02:29:50,451 --> 02:29:48,121 are asking you what you did to look so 3027 02:29:52,761 --> 02:29:50,461 good your secret will be nature's youth 3028 02:29:55,251 --> 02:29:52,771 RSS it's time to start looking better 3029 02:29:57,321 --> 02:29:55,261 and feeling better learn more in order 3030 02:30:07,610 --> 02:29:57,331 your nature's use RSS at nature's youth 3031 02:30:22,139 --> 02:30:11,309 it's not a lifestyle we chose we were 3032 02:30:25,100 --> 02:30:22,149 born this way k GRA radio.com this is KJ 3033 02:30:38,340 --> 02:30:25,110 CR Jimmy search radiojohn yeah 3034 02:30:49,699 --> 02:30:41,369 all right welcome back beta-blockers to 3035 02:30:52,559 --> 02:30:49,709 be Church and I have lost the Internet 3036 02:30:55,949 --> 02:30:52,569 I've got one stage of the internet going 3037 02:30:59,939 --> 02:30:55,959 out I have nothing coming back in so I 3038 02:31:05,239 --> 02:30:59,949 don't have any phones so let's go ahead 3039 02:31:07,829 --> 02:31:05,249 and wrap that's right I'm gonna do this 3040 02:31:09,929 --> 02:31:07,839 was an amazing show with Robert Shaw 3041 02:31:12,389 --> 02:31:09,939 Kate applies executive producers ritika 3042 02:31:14,399 --> 02:31:12,399 Marie on shows produced by Hill J palm 3043 02:31:16,729 --> 02:31:14,409 Renee Dennis and Bob announces our Steve 3044 02:31:19,380 --> 02:31:16,739 harver gene the total Marty colbaugh 3045 02:31:22,290 --> 02:31:19,390 webmaster drew the geek music doug 3046 02:31:25,349 --> 02:31:22,300 aldrich intros space voice spaceboy 3047 02:31:29,729 --> 02:31:25,359 music.com beta-blockers produced by 3048 02:31:32,760 --> 02:31:29,739 kjsurya and syndication is kg ra the 3049 02:31:34,349 --> 02:31:32,770 planet podcast own a copyright of 2018 3050 02:31:34,889 --> 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